Originally posted by Maclintick
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Lebrecht on Rattle
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Originally posted by duncan View Post
'Melodramatically' is putting it politely!
In an elite status organisation of 120+ people like the BPO there are going to be a lot of large personalities. Rattle suggests it was a vocal minority that gave him grief. The orchestra extended his initial contract so presumably the majority of them regarded him positively but a recalcitrant 20-30 could still create a lot of trouble.
Regarding his development as a conductor and whether he has fulfilled his early promise, he made his name initially with repertoire outside the traditional 19th century Austro-German stalwarts (Mahler wasn't one in the 1970s). He's not quite hit the highest of heights in the likes of Beethoven but any 21st century conductor has the problem of comparison with 100 years of recordings in this repertoire. More generally it is perhaps unrealistic to expect conductors to excel in a very wide repertoire although this doesn't stop some trying.
1) Courtship-strong initial attraction
2) early settling in
3) Alternating years of devotion and stormy disagreements as the egos take over
4) Divorce
K.P. Might be 2
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Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
That sounds interesting: do you have any more details? Or a link? I can't find it at all.
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Re-recording, or more often pre-recording at the dress rehearsal, where you might do a complete run under concert conditions or at least a couple of what you can predict will be the tricky passages. And often a programme will be done a few times so there will be alternatives.
Sometimes that can get a bit lacking in verisimilitude though. One example is the Dresden/Davis Elgar 1, where the brass are audibly flagging towards the end but then suddenly the coda is pristine, even with the trumpets taking their final chord up the octave as the score permits.
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Originally posted by Maclintick View PostHere on Christopher Mann’s morning programme. As Smittims says, it may be his 2002 recording - probably not live as no applause. Unfamiliar to me until yesterday.
https://www.br-klassik.de/programm/r...g-3564648.html
Anyway, the Rattle / Wiener Philharmoniker Beethoven 4 is available to hear for ~4 days - but BR Klassik's player can sometimes be a bit tricky to get to the bit you want to hear.
Alternatively, you can go directly to the MP4 stream, (but it might not work in all web browsers).
The Rattle Beethoven 4 is announced ~18:08 in (after the Resphighi), brief credits ~52:04.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View PostWill they not sometimes alert the audience that a commercial recording is being made and ask for there to be no applause?
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View PostSome Bernstein and MTT releases are of live performances without applause too.
Maybe US audiences are similarly restrained in their response; Richard may well be able to tell us.
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