Originally posted by Barbirollians
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F-X Roth in Trouble
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If anyone would prefer German…
https://www.br-klassik.de/aktuell/news-kritik/swr-symphonieorchester-dirigent-francois-xavier-roth-100.html
https://www.br-klassik.de/aktuell/news-kritik/swr-reaktion-untersuchung-francois-xavier-roth-dirigent-metoo-vorwuerfe-102.html
(…pretty much the same as the Diapason articles!)
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Postthey explained that they accept the future collaboration with François-Xavier Roth, but did not support it. "We believe that this decision harms the image, credibility and sovereignty of the orchestraIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by oliver sudden View PostAs far as I can tell from the earlier Diapason article, they’re talking about administrative measures such as setting up communication structures, including designated colleagues in the orchestra and the administration to report to, by which any whiff of impropriety can be reported, presumably anonymised, potentially causing an immediate end to his contract under the terms of a new code of conduct.
And I do indeed imagine that any requests for private contact details from FXR to the administration would set all sorts of alarm bells ringing!
Having safeguarding/whistle blowing measures in place is only as good as their implementation - which doesn't always go as intended and can leave the target of wrondoing in a worse position than before.
I thought I read somewhere that there have been reports of concerns about him over the years - I wonder if those have been addressed, either to dismiss them or take into account when making current decisions?
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostI cannot see how a relationship with an orchestra where 48 of its membership say they really don't want him is likely to be sustainable.
In terms of the orchestra members' objection, the letter seems to focus on reputational and other impacts rather than the problems of working with someone whose behaviour they find unacceptable.
"We believe that this decision harms the image, credibility and sovereignty of the orchestra,"
It isn't necessarily impossible to work with someone whose personal behaviour or character one finds unacceptable, but it doesn't always make for the best outcome. Time will tell whether the publicly aired problems with Roth affect audience support and orchestra functioning to a degree that demands a rethink of his appointment.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
I thought I read somewhere that there have been reports of concerns about him over the years - I wonder if those have been addressed, either to dismiss them or take into account when making current decisions?
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Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
Indeed these issues apparently go back 20 years. I wonder how he escaped the last era of “Me too”. In fact he prospered during that time, since it’s in the last decade that his star has risen, with every release being hailed by Gramophone as the Second Coming ( American critics were more reserved).
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
I bought his Petrushka/Rite of Spring disc when it first came out. The former was OK but I found the latter unimpressive and couldn't understand the hype it generated. I've since avoided any of his discs.
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Originally posted by smittims View PostI have noticed that male conductors tend to attract sexual desire in women (the figure of a commanding male standing up... need one say more?), and presumably there's the temptation to exploit this.
Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostI cannot see how a relationship with an orchestra where 48 of its membership say they really don't want him is likely to be sustainable.
Originally posted by oddoneout View PostIt won't be the only ensemble where not all the members are happy with the choice of the person on the podium - that's partly just human nature.
Originally posted by Petrushka View PostI bought his Petrushka/Rite of Spring disc when it first came out. The former was OK but I found the latter unimpressive and couldn't understand the hype it generated. I've since avoided any of his discs.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostSeems a great choice then ... Dutoit or Roth ....:sigh:
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Mercury Living Presence was so consistent when it came to the discs they put out. Even if the repertoire didn't happen to be all that appealing to me I'd still want to listen because it was almost certain to be very good. It was also a great showcase for the less-celebrated orchestras like Detroit.
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Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
If you haven't already got it, I'd strongly recommend LSO/Dorati for a complete Firebird. Don't be put off by it being recorded in 1960; it's a Mercury Living Presence issue and sounds terrific.
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Re my msg 41 and msg 42 which quoted it I was not referring to recordings. I used to think Dutoit was a good conductor and indeed did hear him live once not too long ago, and enjoyed the concert.
It was after that the rather seedy allegations and details came out. Given his age I doubt that those will make much difference now though he probably doesn't conduct live concerts or make recordings any more.
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