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  • Old Grumpy
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 3594

    #16
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post

    …and while we’re at it let’s abandon the RAH and move the whole Proms to a field in Somerest where everyone can dance bare!
    Perhaps Simon Smith will attend with his dancing bare (ref #3)

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    • eighthobstruction
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6425

      #17
      ....my goodness there would be some grizzly sights....
      bong ching

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37556

        #18
        Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
        ....my goodness there would be some grizzly sights....
        That's the bear truth.

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        • Old Grumpy
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          • Jan 2011
          • 3594

          #19
          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
          ....my goodness there would be some grizzly sights....
          My interpretation is the polar opposite...

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          • burning dog
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1509

            #20
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

            Assuming, that is, that the re-nationalisation programme remains on track and isn't derailed.
            Or hits the buffers

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12765

              #21
              Originally posted by burning dog View Post

              Or hits the buffers
              ... shunted into a siding

              ,

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              • LMcD
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                • Sep 2017
                • 8396

                #22
                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                Perhaps Simon Smith will attend with his dancing bare (ref #3)
                That might lead some people to consider him a randy new man.

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                • Ian Thumwood
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4128

                  #23
                  It is funny how concert programmes can squash your appetite by programming certain composers together. I find that the Bournemouth SO gigs manage to come up with a mix match of work where it seems like a hard listen. The are composers like Brahms, Dvorak Tchaikovsky and Mozart would make me wish for a gig by Nike Rodgers. Too much German and 19th century Russian work is a real downer for me. Late 19th music is often over wrought and I would find a concert tedious too. Brahms is the worst name of a concert programme for me.

                  I prefer it when concert halls put on more varied programmes. Better to hear more unfamiliar stuff but I think that classical music is a broad church which means most gigs probably contain something not to our taste. I went to a recent recital which featured Webern in a mix of Bach, Beethoven and Symanowski The Webern merely made LVB sound even better but the Bach and Symanowski pieces were far better than the former. Symanowski is someone who should feature more. That should please Mr Smith

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37556

                    #24
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                    ... shunted into a siding

                    ,
                    Sidelined.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37556

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                      It is funny how concert programmes can squash your appetite by programming certain composers together. I find that the Bournemouth SO gigs manage to come up with a mix match of work where it seems like a hard listen. The are composers like Brahms, Dvorak Tchaikovsky and Mozart would make me wish for a gig by Nike Rodgers. Too much German and 19th century Russian work is a real downer for me. Late 19th music is often over wrought and I would find a concert tedious too. Brahms is the worst name of a concert programme for me.

                      I prefer it when concert halls put on more varied programmes. Better to hear more unfamiliar stuff but I think that classical music is a broad church which means most gigs probably contain something not to our taste. I went to a recent recital which featured Webern in a mix of Bach, Beethoven and Symanowski The Webern merely made LVB sound even better but the Bach and Symanowski pieces were far better than the former. Symanowski is someone who should feature more. That should please Mr Smith
                      For me a main problem of many concert programmes is incompatible stylistic juxtapositionings. I can like certain composers very much, but not together: f'rinstance Schoenberg and Satie on one concert would be too much for me, like placing pink and orange next to each other, or having salt in one's tea. But evidently a lot of people are quite happy with this, otherwise why would recordings be issued of blatantly opposite kinds of music?

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                      • eighthobstruction
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6425

                        #26
                        ....or the compilers/ designers/assemblers are happy....
                        bong ching

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22110

                          #27
                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                          That might lead some people to consider him a randy new man.
                          Which might come at A Price Set in court.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9135

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                            For me a main problem of many concert programmes is incompatible stylistic juxtapositionings. I can like certain composers very much, but not together: f'rinstance Schoenberg and Satie on one concert would be too much for me, like placing pink and orange next to each other, or having salt in one's tea. But evidently a lot of people are quite happy with this, otherwise why would recordings be issued of blatantly opposite kinds of music?
                            It's very much a subjective matter though isn't it? I don't have an inherent dislike of pink and orange together, and some cultures add salt to their tea. In terms of music what one person finds makes for an uncomfortable pairing might for another bring a fresh - and worthwhile - hearing experience. The latter could well be behind what you find undesirable concert/recording pairings. That doesn't necessarily matter for recordings since you are in control of how you listen, but I can see that it might make for difficulties in a live concert. Mind you it's not so different from a piece that one really doesn't want to hear(juxtaposed or otherwise) in a programme of otherwise appealing items - weighing up the balance of good versus not good listening experience.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37556

                              #29
                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                              It's very much a subjective matter though isn't it? I don't have an inherent dislike of pink and orange together, and some cultures add salt to their tea. In terms of music what one person finds makes for an uncomfortable pairing might for another bring a fresh - and worthwhile - hearing experience. The latter could well be behind what you find undesirable concert/recording pairings. That doesn't necessarily matter for recordings since you are in control of how you listen, but I can see that it might make for difficulties in a live concert. Mind you it's not so different from a piece that one really doesn't want to hear(juxtaposed or otherwise) in a programme of otherwise appealing items - weighing up the balance of good versus not good listening experience.
                              Fair comments. Just as well we're not married!

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                              • smittims
                                Full Member
                                • Aug 2022
                                • 4034

                                #30
                                I don't know if the Radio Times get their information from the BBC but I was amused to see both Schoenberg's Pelleas und Melisande and Zemlinsky's SeeJungfrau described as 'tearjerkers'.

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