TV music presentation

[french frank]

Seems a 'natural' progression from applause between the movements. But they missed out 'tweet breaks' (for when there was no applause)

[teamsaint]

He needs to give himself a look in the mirror after his inter-movement lecturettes.

Back to the piece and the concert. I've edited out all presentation and interruption from my recording and had a listen/watch last night. It really is a very compelling performance - intense (hence doubly idiotic of thinking of interrupting it with chat) - and for once the soloists were all pretty spot on. In the orchestra, I was struck by some terrific woodwind playing in particular. Memorable stuff.

Must try to catch up.

Sadly, godawful presentation still has a few tricks up its sleeve.

Sports style "on pitch" interviews, amplified into the auditorium, immediately after the end of the event,with " Tom Hark" blaring in the background, for instance......

[mercia]

sorry to return to the TV coverage, I'm just watching this on iPlayer and I haven't seen or heard Sir Mark at all - I think all those bits have been excised - barely a gap between the first two movements, no time for applause even. Perhaps a "second version" of the programme has been produced by popular demand.

[MrGongGong]

sorry to return to the TV coverage, I'm just watching this on iPlayer and I haven't seen or heard Sir Mark at all - I think all those bits have been excised - barely a gap between the first two movements, no time for applause even.

I'd write to Feedback if I where you

[mercia]

I'd write to Feedback if I where you

if you like (to what purpose ? )

[Nick Armstrong]

sorry to return to the TV coverage, I'm just watching this on iPlayer and I haven't seen or heard Sir Mark at all - I think all those bits have been excised - barely a gap between the first two movements, no time for applause even. Perhaps a "second version" of the programme has been produced by popular demand.

Interesting. It sounds very like the home-made version I now have on my hard drive recorder

[french frank]

sorry to return to the TV coverage, I'm just watching this on iPlayer and I haven't seen or heard Sir Mark at all - I think all those bits have been excised - barely a gap between the first two movements, no time for applause even. Perhaps a "second version" of the programme has been produced by popular demand.

Could be - I tried it this morning and got the full workshop - except I decided not to bother.

[Ed] Nope, from where I'm accessing it there's still Sir Marco - now introducing the Scherzo …

[mercia]

two 'versions'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0638jc0/bbc-proms-2015-season-bbc-proms-sunday-symphony-beethovens-ninth

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02wlz2q/bbc-proms-2015-season-beethoven-symphony-no-9-in-d-minor-choral

[french frank]

Thanks, mercs - the second one seems to be the uninterrupted version

[BBMmk2]

Thanks for those items featuring the two versions of the LvB 9th Prom. Will investigate the non dribble version! :)

[Barbirollians]

I do wonder whether Sir Mark knew he was going to be interpolated between movements ? I have not seen it in the interests of my blood pressure - perhaps it was clear that he knew he was from what he was saying .

[MrGongGong]

I do wonder whether Sir Mark knew he was going to be interpolated between movements ?

Not everyone is so attached to the idea of a single context for the presentation of music.
Why not ask him?

[french frank]

Not everyone is so attached to the idea of a single context for the presentation of music.
Why not ask him?

On the other hand, my impression is that almost everyone who regularly listens to symphonies prefers to have them presented as a full work, without interruptions.

Another impression is that most people will do what the BBC requires them to if they're paid for it.

[cloughie]

I do wonder whether Sir Mark knew he was going to be interpolated between movements ? I have not seen it in the interests of my blood pressure - perhaps it was clear that he knew he was from what he was saying .

I wonder if Sir Mark would be happy if Andris texted him to say 'Can I pop on stage next time you're doing Elgar 2 and tell the audience about each movement.'

[MrGongGong]

On the other hand, my impression is that almost everyone who regularly listens to symphonies prefers to have them presented as a full work, without interruptions.

They can if they use the radio or go along to the gig.
Do the people who regularly listen get to choose how things are presented?
(I'm not saying they shouldn't)

Personally, I DO like to listen to whole pieces BUT I don't think this will happen on TV, nor should I expect it to.

I think some people simply don't enjoy the context of TV

I'm sure Beethoven will be fine whatever happens

I wonder if Sir Mark would be happy if Andris texted him to say 'Can I pop on stage next time you're doing Elgar 2 and tell the audience about each movement.'

Sounds like a great idea.