Music you've still not grown to like

[Dave2002]

Mendelssohn.

Just can't find a piece of Mendelssohn that I don't like.
Yes,including the 2nd Symphony and Elijah.

Paulus?

[P. G. Tipps]

Okay, I won't mention Brahms yet again ... I've been rather too uncharitable at times about the old German pub bore's music and I do not wish to upset besotted forum Brahmsians unnecessarily.

However .. ... the reality is that Brahms is much too smart for me and I generally don't like people who are smarter than me, because, frankly, I'm just too thick to understand what they are saying. Brahms is like the popular quick-witted guy at the party who is the immediate centre of attraction for other admiring quick-witted types but who nonetheless leaves the slow dimwits in the room completely unmoved. Maybe it's just simple jealousy as well as lack of comprehension, I really don't know.

Bruckner, on the other hand, is much more my type. A simple country boy, decidedly uncomfortable in smart-ass liberal society, Somebody easily understood by slow, yet maybe more profound thinkers. Unlike the smooth and garrulous Johannes. he gazes in wonder at all around him and, well, just wonders and explores to try and make sense of it all, continuing to explore and wonder. Finally he comes to the conclusion that we are all just part of an incredible miracle. He is excited by this discovery but the quick-wits think he is a bit of a dullard and even slightly mad by suggesting that there might be even more important and exciting things around than themselves.They, in turn, don't like somebody like that. Such personal party-poopers can be frightfully irritating, as we all know.

So, as Roehre has said, it's all a matter of individual taste and, in my own long view, basic personality as well. After all, we are all different which is why we have forums like this in the first place?

Finally, a, message for esteemed member, Flossie. If there is ONE great composer whose music cannot be easily slotted into any particular era it is that of Josef Anton Bruckner. That is its very attraction for so many devotees like myself. For all its supposed 'weaknesses' and 'faults' it is completely and utterly unique and TIMELESS.

Certainly Bruckner's own peers didn't seem to think it particularly' belonged' to the 19th Century whether they were fans or fierce opponents, quick wits or dimwits!

[MrGongGong]

I didn't write that there was anything wrong with it (I assume you mean Mahler's music) -.

I meant Mendelssohn

Just can't find a piece of Mendelssohn that I don't like.
Yes,including the 2nd Symphony and Elijah.

Elijah

[Pabmusic]

... the reality is that Brahms is much too smart for me and I generally don't like people who are smarter than me, because, frankly, I'm just too thick to understand what they are saying...

Don't worry, I'll take it slowly.

...Brahms is like the popular quick-witted guy at the party who is the immediate centre of attraction for other admiring quick-witted types but who nonetheless leaves the slow dimwits in the room completely unmoved. Maybe it's just simple jealousy as well as lack of comprehension, I really don't know...

Interesting. I'd never have juxtaposed "Brahms" and "quick-wiited". Berlioz, Mendelssohn or Liszt perhaps. Anyway, I never went to that sort of party.

...Bruckner, on the other hand, is much more my type...

Well, good for you. I recall a boarder called Scottycelt who might have found such an admission threatening.

...A simple country boy, decidedly uncomfortable in smart-ass liberal society...

I'd hazard that he had Asperger's (there's loads of clues) so he was probably not very 'simple', though he'd have been very uncomfortable in any sort of society.

...Somebody easily understood by slow, yet maybe more profound thinkers...

Or slow thinkers with fair hair... Or slow thinkers who support Arsenal... Or...

...Unlike the smooth and garrulous Johannes. he gazes in wonder at all around him and, well, just wonders and explores to try and make sense of it all, continuing to explore and wonder...

Very good (truly) as metaphor, and a clear indication of how much AB means to you, Sco... sorry, PG. But of course he does no such thing. He writes music and we interpret it ourselves, often with some knowledge of the artist. True, some interpretations would be perverse (it clearly doesn't conjure up a nightclub in Ibiza - though maybe...?).

...Finally he comes to the conclusion that we are all just part of an incredible miracle... He is excited by this discovery...

I wonder what AB might have made of this. Do you have a personal line, or is this metaphor as well?

...but the quick-wits think he is a bit of a dullard and even slightly mad...

Aspies are not 'mad'. I should know (I'm one).

...by suggesting that there might be even more important and exciting things around than themselves...

Is this your personal line again, or is it still metaphor?

...They, in turn, don't like somebody like that...

And you know this because...?

...Such personal party-poopers can be frightfully irritating, as we all know...

And you know this because...?

...So, as Roehre has said, it's all a matter of individual taste and, in my own long view, basic personality as well. After all, we are all different which is why we have forums like this in the first place?...

Now I'm with you 100%.

...Finally, a, message for esteemed member, Flossie. If there is ONE great composer whose music cannot be easily slotted into any particular era it is that of Josef Anton Bruckner. That is its very attraction for so many devotees like myself. For all its supposed 'weaknesses' and 'faults' it is completely and utterly unique and TIMELESS. Certainly Bruckner's own peers didn't seem to think it particularly' belonged' to the 19th Century whether they were fans or fierce opponents, quick wits or dimwits!

A good summary of your opinion, though I'm not sure how you know the last sentence in true.

[MrGongGong]

Finally, a, message for esteemed member, Flossie. If there is ONE great composer whose music cannot be easily slotted into any particular era it is that of Josef Anton Bruckner. That is its very attraction for so many devotees like myself. For all its supposed 'weaknesses' and 'faults' it is completely and utterly unique and TIMELESS.

(I like Bruckner)

This is nonsense
It's very much of it's time and therefore cannot be said to be "TIMELESS"

[Beef Oven!]

(I like Bruckner)

This is nonsense
It's very much of it's time and therefore cannot be said to be "TIMELESS"

If I listen to Bruckner, it's now. I am not listening in the past. In the listener's ear, the music takes on the meaning of the moment.

[cloughie]

Mendelssohn.

Just can't find a piece of Mendelssohn that I don't like.
Yes,including the 2nd Symphony and Elijah.

I find much of his choral stuff tedious - I don't know if it's more interesting if singing it because I've not done it. What I would say about Sym 2 is to press the stop button before the singing starts - the Sinfonia is lovely.

[MrGongGong]

The overture to a Midsummer's Night Dream surely who cannot like that ?

It's like cricket and Wagner

[cloughie]

It's like cricket and Wagner

Idyllic.

[MrGongGong]

Idyllic.

Great to play but tedious to watch

[teamsaint]

Great to play but tedious to watch

I like watching and playing cricket.
But I would rather watch a great fast bowler than play against one.

[cloughie]

I like watching and playing cricket.
But I would rather watch a great fast bowler than play against one.

Or keep wicket for one on your own side!

[Dave2002]

... the reality is that Brahms is much too smart for me and I generally don't like people who are smarter than me, because, frankly, I'm just too thick to understand what they are saying.

Don't worry, keep eating the bananas. I think they might be good for the brain

[EdgeleyRob]

I find much of his choral stuff tedious - I don't know if it's more interesting if singing it because I've not done it. What I would say about Sym 2 is to press the stop button before the singing starts - the Sinfonia is lovely.

Cloughie,you're getting confused with LvB 9

[EdgeleyRob]

Paulus?

Ah!,you've got me there Dave,I don't know it.