What Classical Music Are You listening to Now? IV

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  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 3689

    I agree with you, MasterJaques. The continual move towards precision, which characterised 20th-century performance, was not all gain. As early as 1948 critics were noting that something was being lost. A good example , I think, is the 1967 Klemperer EMI recording of Petrushka, which was not issued by EMI at the time because of imprecisions in the playing. Since then Testament editors have re-examined all the takes of it and produced a CD which is , to my ears, closer to the spirit of the work than some of the needle-sharp renditions I've heard, impressive though they may be. And let's not forget that Stravinsky publicly praised the early recordings of the work by Monteux and himself as being examples of how he wanted his music played, even though, to modern ears, they are very slack in ensemble.

    My choice this mornig: Debussy: La Demoiselle elue
    Berlioz: Les Nuits d'ete.

    Victoria de los Angeles, the Boston Symphony, Charles Munch, 1955 RCA Victor.

    These are very beautiful performances which so far as I am aware have had very little circulatuon since their first issue in the USA.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 17931

      Having spotted a "bargain" [see Bargain thread] at Presto, I noticed some CDs by composers and artists I'd never heard of.

      One is Rhené-Baton - so I might buy that collection.

      However here is Rhené-Baton's Op 31 Trio - which is rather good:


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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
        • 7511

        Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
        Brahms
        Piano Trios 1-3
        Renaud Capucon, Gautier Capucon & Nicholas Angelich
        Recorded 2003 Auditorium de la Cite dea Arts, Chambery
        Virgin Classics, CD

        Magdalena Kožená – Handel – Arias
        Arias from Alcina, Hercules, Agrippina, Giulio Cesare in Egitto, Joshua,
        Ariodante, Theodora, Amadigi di Gaula, Orlando, Ariodante & Rinaldo
        Magdalena Kožená (mezzo-soprano)
        Venice Baroque Orchestra / Andrea Marcon
        Recorded 2006, Gustav Mahler Saal, Kulturzentrum Grand Hotel, Toblach
        Archiv Produktion, CD
        I'm surprised that this (Brahms) recording dates back to 2003. Did these same forces make a more recent recording?

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        • Stanfordian
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          • Dec 2010
          • 9282

          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post

          I'm surprised that this (Brahms) recording dates back to 2003. Did these same forces make a more recent recording?
          Hiya richardfinegold,

          The information I gave is correct. It was recorded in 2003 and the Virgin Classics CD was released in 2004. PM sent.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
            • 37239

            G.F. Malipiero: Violin Concerto (1932)

            Gian Francesco Malipiero (1882 - 1973)Koncert pro housle a orchestr / Violin Concerto(1932)André Gertler - housle / violinSymfonický orchestr hl. m. Prahyříd...


            My favourite work by a very favourite composer, the severe archaisms and modal idiom has surprisingly much in common with some of Vaughan Williams' folk song settings, eg Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus, notwithstanding the aesthetic gulf between the two composers. The unaccompanied cadenza near the end, alternating plainsong and folk-type gestures, and the subsequent sequence of modulations, are especially moving, I think.

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            • edashtav
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              • Jul 2012
              • 3621

              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              G.F. Malipiero: Violin Concerto (1932)

              Gian Francesco Malipiero (1882 - 1973)Koncert pro housle a orchestr / Violin Concerto(1932)André Gertler - housle / violinSymfonický orchestr hl. m. Prahyříd...


              My favourite work by a very favourite composer, the severe archaisms and modal idiom has surprisingly much in common with some of Vaughan Williams' folk song settings, eg Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus, notwithstanding the aesthetic gulf between the two composers. The unaccompanied cadenza near the end, alternating plainsong and folk-type gestures, and the subsequent sequence of modulations, are especially moving, I think.
              I must follow your link.

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 17931

                How on earth does one perform this piece?

                Curious - but I'm listening.

                Graphic score with a realisation for bass flute, bass trombone, and prepared bass drum.

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                • Dave2002
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 17931

                  Maybe this explains some graphic scores - see


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                  • smittims
                    Full Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 3689

                    I think one is supposed to study the diagram, think about it and use one's imagination. I know it's easy to scoff, but it wasn't so unusual at the time. There's a lovely story about Stockhausen rehearsing the BBC Symphony Orchestra in one of his 'Seven Days' pieces ('Set Sails for the Sun' perhaps) . The score consisted of an instruction, something like (I'm quoting from memory) 'hold a note until you are making it in the rhythm of the universe'. One of the players asked him 'how will I know when I am making the note in the rhythm of the universe?' and Stockhausen said 'I will tell you'.

                    I was interested in Haubenstock-Ramati in the 1970s and would have liked to study with him. I ran a music improvisation group at the time and we had a lot of fun playing this sort of music.

                    Thanks, Dave for the link to the Spock video. I found that useful.

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                    • Stanfordian
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9282

                      Marcelo Álvarez – '20 Years on the Opera Stage'
                      Arias from Giordano, Leoncavallo, Mascagni, Puccini, Gomes, Halévy, Cilea, Zandonai, Massenet

                      Marcelo Álvarez (tenor)
                      St. Petersburg State Symphony Orchestra / Constantine Orbelian
                      Recorded 2014, Studio No. 5, St. Petersburg Radio, Russia
                      Delos, CD

                      Mozart
                      Piano Concerto No. 19 in F major, K459
                      Piano Concerto No. 18 in B flat major, K456
                      The Cleveland Orchestra / Mitsuko Uchida (piano & direction)
                      Recorded Live, 2014 Severance Hall, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
                      Decca Classics, CD
                      Last edited by Stanfordian; 26-07-24, 18:52.

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                      • oliver sudden
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                        • Feb 2024
                        • 469

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        One of the players asked him 'how will I know when I am making the note in the rhythm of the universe?' and Stockhausen said 'I will tell you'.
                        Perfect Stockhausen! I didn't know that quote, many thanks.

                        The Sieben Tagen pieces are nicely presented here:

                        Analysis and appreciation of AUS DEN SIEBEN TAGEN (From The Seven Days), Karlheinz Stockhausen's work exploring directed free improvisation and intuitive music with acoustic, electronic, electroacoustic and found sound-based ensembles. This article analyzes the original DGG 1969-1972 recordings as well.


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                        • Stanfordian
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9282

                          Georg Frideric Handel – 'Enchantresses' – Sandrine Piau
                          Arias from operas Lotario, Rinaldo, Giulio Cesare, Amadigi di Gaula, Alcina and cantata Lucrezia
                          Sandrine Piau (soprano),
                          Les Paladins / Jérôme Correas (direction)
                          Recorded 2020 Théâtre de Poissy, France
                          Alpha Classics, CD
                          Last edited by Stanfordian; 28-07-24, 12:31.

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                          • smittims
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 3689

                            Matthew Taylor: Viola Concerto .

                            Malcolm Hayes: Byzantium

                            ...two living (at least, I hope they're still living!) composers who in my opinion don't get enough air-time, but whose music is far better in my view than that of the BBC darlings who are on almost every week.

                            Matthew Taylor is also a conductor, among other things of the Hyperion CD of Bob Simpson's last symphony. He too has written a fine symphony .
                            The Hayes is a symphonic poem based, presumably , on Yeats' poem . Very atmospheric and beautiful .

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9282

                              Gioacchino Rossini
                              'Elisabetta regina d’Inghilterra' opera in two acts
                              (prem. 1815 Teatro San Carlo, Naples)
                              Jennifer Larmore, Bruce Ford, Majella Cullagh, Manuela Custer, Antonino Siragusa, Colin Lee
                              The Geoffrey Mitchell Choir
                              London Philharmonic Orchestra / Giuliano Carella
                              Recorded 2002 St, Clement's Church, London
                              Opera Rara, 3 CDs

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                              • AuntDaisy
                                Host
                                • Jun 2018
                                • 1437

                                "English Royal Funeral Music", Lionel Meunier, Vox Luminis - a glorious selection of music, esp. the Purcell.
                                I was listening to a play called "A Sad Pavan for these distracted Times" and wanted to hear the Tomkins again...


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