Happy Birthday Mr. Diamond

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10950

    #16
    Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
    The chief influences on Diamond are actually French, notably Ravel and above all Roussel, you can hear this in the scoring and in the fastidious attention to contrapuntal detail. As well as the pan-diatonic manner of Copland in his works of the 1940s.
    A consequence of studying with Boulanger in Paris, presumably?

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    • Suffolkcoastal
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      A consequence of studying with Boulanger in Paris, presumably?
      I would actually say far less so than many other Americans who studied with her. His distinct style is already evident in works written before studying with Boulanger later in 1937 and he had been in France earlier encountering Ravel and Roussel and became friends with Gide, so French culture was already in his blood before he met Boulanger.

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      • Suffolkcoastal
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Beefy, the 3rd is my favourite, it does sound like the movements don't fit together initially, but they do. They are thematically tightly linked like presenting four differing sides to an individual's personality.

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        • antongould
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          I think the slow movement of the 3rd is wonderful - cynics might suggest this morning "they" played the shortest movement ....

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          • Beef Oven!
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            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #20
            Suffolk coastal, I've just finished listening to it on Apple Music (I have the CD somewhere) and I agree that the movements appear not to hang together, but I'll go with what you say that they will/do on further listening, what with you being a composer and will get these things sooner than I would!

            My favourite remains #2, but we'll see.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
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              #21
              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              I think the slow movement of the 3rd is wonderful.......

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10950

                #22
                Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                I would actually say far less so than many other Americans who studied with her. His distinct style is already evident in works written before studying with Boulanger later in 1937 and he had been in France earlier encountering Ravel and Roussel and became friends with Gide, so French culture was already in his blood before he met Boulanger.
                Thanks for your observations/comments SC.
                Looks like I have to get to know (or at least hear) S2 and S3, too, from other comments!

                PS! Delighted, then disappointed, to find this on Amazon!
                Last edited by Pulcinella; 09-07-15, 14:42. Reason: PS added!

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                • maestro267
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 355

                  #23
                  I've just remembered this anniversary today, so I'm giving his Symphony No. 2 a spin. Really enjoyable work, and yet another composer who could do with a complete symphony cycle on disc.

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                  • Beef Oven!
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                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #24
                    Originally posted by maestro267 View Post
                    I've just remembered this anniversary today, so I'm giving his Symphony No. 2 a spin. Really enjoyable work, and yet another composer who could do with a complete symphony cycle on disc.

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                    • Suffolkcoastal
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3290

                      #25
                      Finished the day with the 3rd Symphony perfect - thankyou for your music David, it has given me such great pleasure these past 25 years since I first heard it. Happy Centenary.

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                      • EdgeleyRob
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12180

                        #26
                        The String Quartets are worth exploring.
                        What a superb cycle,3 and 10 the stand out works for me.
                        The American equivalent of the LvB's ?

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                        • Roehre

                          #27
                          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                          The String Quartets are worth exploring.
                          What a superb cycle,3 and 10 the stand out works for me.
                          The American equivalent of the LvB's ?
                          More DSCH's

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                          • EdgeleyRob
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                            More DSCH's
                            Russian LvBs ?

                            Do all the great string quartet cycles owe a debt to Beethoven ? or maybe Haydn ?
                            It's the most perfect musical form IMVHO.
                            Pity RVW didn't write more.

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                            • antongould
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8785

                              #29
                              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                              The String Quartets are worth exploring.
                              What a superb cycle,3 and 10 the stand out works for me.
                              The American equivalent of the LvB's ?

                              Symphonies keeping me going at present ER but I will certainly move on to the SQs ....

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                              • richardfinegold
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                                • Sep 2012
                                • 7667

                                #30
                                I explored his output a bit, as my lending library had many of the Schwartz recordings. I found it interesting but not very compelling compared to Piston, Schuman, Hanson or Harris, let alone non American Composers.

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