Music of (or for) consolation

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  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5745

    #61
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

    And of course, Messiaen had already interwoven it into his Fête des belles eaux for ondes martenots three years earlier.
    I haven't re-checked, Serial, but I understand he had already begun the quartet before being captured - I don't know whether there was more than that piece already in existence.

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    • LMcD
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      • Sep 2017
      • 8464

      #62
      The EPG on my TV informs me that Bruckner's 8th Symphony brings us 'epic grandeur, deep consolation and blazing calm'. I'm just wondering exactly what is meant by the last of these.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4146

        #63
        Thanks, I didn't know that. under the circumstances one can hardly criticise him for re-using material .

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18015

          #64
          Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post

          BIS-CD 925 is now on Qobuz in 16bit 44.1k. Or there's one on eBay at £7.99.
          Thanks. There are several outlets for this now - just not the obvious ones. I have several copies anyway.

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18015

            #65
            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            Odd that no-one has mentioned anything ŕeligious or sacred based on this thread when one of the very reasons for such music is often that of consolation.

            I find the timeless majesty of Bach's B minor Mass puts most troubles into perspective.
            There are parts of the St Matthew Passion which are also effective, and indeed also the Christmas Oratorio.



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            • kernelbogey
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5745

              #66
              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              There are parts of the St Matthew Passion which are also effective....
              The final chorus, after its various earlier manifestations, never fails to move me.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37680

                #67
                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

                I haven't re-checked, Serial, but I understand he had already begun the quartet before being captured - I don't know whether there was more than that piece already in existence.
                At 8 mins and 17 mins 23 secs:

                Olivier Messiaen (1908-1992): Fête des belles eaux, per sestetto di Ondes Martenot (1937).Sextet Jeanne Loriod:Nelly Caron, Monique Matagne, Renée Recoussine...


                PS The rest of the piece is pretty good too!

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10925

                  #68
                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

                  I haven't re-checked, Serial, but I understand he had already begun the quartet before being captured - I don't know whether there was more than that piece already in existence.
                  There's some information in the Wiki article here:

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