Originally posted by DublinJimbo
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Hmm - I hope he's got over it, as it would somewhat hinder his ability to conduct the orchestra. Mind you, given what some people here say about the relationship between conductor & orchestra, the BPO might be quite pleased to have a conductor who found it difficult to tell them what to do. -
Eh...??!Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
I think they are strikingly dissimilar!
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Be interested to know others' views but this sounds like the real thing to me, Kirill Petrenko conducting in Bayreuth in 2013:
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Having now recovered, following on from #23, just been listening to this...
...and it evinces similar qualities - superb orchestral timbre and discipline, but a liberated, free-breathing sense of expression in the playing as well. Not quite as richly sonorous or as rivetingly dramatic as the live Asrael, but certainly evidence of a quick, close bond between conductor and orchestra. No other work of Suk's approaches Asrael really, it has an inspirational, tragic intensity - a uniquely harrowing utterance of love and loss. If you know why it speaks to you - what it tells you about yourself - it can be almost, if not literally, unbearable...
If you love Asrael, and can still bear to hear it, Petrenko's CPO recording is essential.
But I'm looking forward to this coming soon....
A good time of year to hear it... heat rises like a mist off its lavish & delicate textures...
I wonder if the Philharmoniker desired a warmer bond than may be achieved with an imported star... something of Kempe/Staatskapelle, or Kubelik with the BRSO...
Someone to grow, rediscover and renew with, CBSO/Rattle style....
**LATER THAT NIGHT...Kirill Petrenko's THE RIPENING (CPO Lossless Download), just fading into silence as first light breaks outside... underestimated it - it's a MAGNIFICENT performance, just terrific! Enjoyed it more than I ever did Pesek or Behlolavek. The Serendipity of Threads...Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 23-06-15, 04:39.Comment
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Furtwangler, Karajan, Abbado. Rattle... Kyrill Petrenko.
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My thoughts precisely, Alpie - but what an opportunity!Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
(I also agree with Cali in#32 - the two Petrenki look very different from one another.)[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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It seems his outstanding musicianship isn't doubted - merely his ability to make an impression on the UK public. Rattle had a definite advantage there …Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Well a reply to the final sentence in the quotation in Mary's post: "I've no idea what Kirill P. looks like."Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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But it was Vasily that Mary emphasisied & mentioned in connection with teeshirts.
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Kirill Petrenko has has been less than prolific in the recording studio and that will have to change quickly. I don't know what KP is like with the media but he will be expected to give talks/interviews prior to every one of his concerts.Originally posted by french frank View PostComment
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Time for a visit to Specsavers. He couldn't be much different!Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostComment
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Perhaps that's just what his agent told the ghastly Morrison.Originally posted by pastoralguy View PostComment
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A friend of mine sees him out jogging occasionally (VP). I'll ask him what he looks like? In selecting KP I hope the BPO have not done a 'Miliband' .Originally posted by Mary Chambers View PostComment
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I've been reading some German newspaper reports on Petrenko's appointment. Very full background detail in the Berlin Tagesspiegel, which starts by pointing to a performance of Elgar's Second in 2009 after which the orchestra declined his invitation to stand up and receive the enthusiastic applause and instead remained seated and applauded the conductor. According to the report, this very rarely happens with the Berliners. Even then you might have guessed there could be big developments afoot between conductor and orchestra, comments the author of the piece. The appointment is nevertheless described later on as a bit of a "blank cheque". They got on well with Elgar but have never worked together on a single work from their core repertoire: nether Brahms, Beethoven, Bruckner symphonies nor anything from German Romanticism between Schumann and Strauss.Comment
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von Bulow, Nikisch...Furtwangler etc...Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
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