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  • otterhouse
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 21

    Kirill Petrenko. Who...?

    Vasily Petrenko is far more known in the Netherlands, but Kirill, the new Berliner Philharmoniker chef (in 2018) ?

    Found some, but not many, recordings on Spotify:

    classical playlist spotify . A blog about classical music playlists on Spotify . Beethoven Mozart Vivaldi Max Bruch . Orchestra violin piano cello


    Did any of you heard him conduct? Opinions?

    Rolf (Netherlands)
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Glad it's not just me!
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Mary Chambers
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1963

      #3
      I know the name, but that's all. I've never heard him conduct. He's presumably quite good.

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        #4
        I read the thread title as Kill Petrenko...

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          Originally posted by jean View Post
          I read the thread title as Kill Petrenko...
          Tends to give a wide berth to the BBC National Orchestra of Whales.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Gordon
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1425

            #6
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Tends to give a wide berth to the BBC National Orchestra of Whales.
            As in Whale Kipper Whelk-ome in the Eelside?

            As for KP we'll have to wait and see I suppose.

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            • makropulos
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1673

              #7
              This strikes me as a most enlightened appointment. What I've heard of Kirill Petrenko's work is very exciting. Like his namesake (but not relation), he's an Elgar enthusias and his Berlin PO performance of Elgar's 2nd Symphony in 2009 was outstanding (it was broadcast). The only time I've heard him live was a splendid performance of Janacek's Katya Kabanova in Vienna (2008). He's a most experienced opera conductor, and I'm greatly looking forward to seeing how his relationship with the Berlin PO develops.

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              • slarty

                #8
                I heard his RING Cycle from Bayreuth last year and was not impressed. Too slick and superficial, his Verdi(from Munich) suffers from the same problems. Maybe he is unduly influenced by so many Eurotrash productions.
                Like Makropulos, I also heard his Elgar 2, paired with Beethoven 3rd Piano Co(Vogt) with the BPO. Good, but not one for the archives.

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                • Stanfordian
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 9311

                  #9
                  Originally posted by otterhouse View Post
                  Vasily Petrenko is far more known in the Netherlands, but Kirill, the new Berliner Philharmoniker chef (in 2018) ?

                  Found some, but not many, recordings on Spotify:

                  classical playlist spotify . A blog about classical music playlists on Spotify . Beethoven Mozart Vivaldi Max Bruch . Orchestra violin piano cello


                  Did any of you heard him conduct? Opinions?

                  Rolf (Netherlands)
                  I also have never heard KP conduct in concert, missing his performances closely by only a few days. I know that he made a splendid impression overall at the Bavarian State Opera, Munich.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11682

                    #10
                    It does seem an out of the blue sort of appointment after they were unable to agree on the previous candidates .

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                    • Anastasius
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                      • Mar 2015
                      • 1842

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      It does seem an out of the blue sort of appointment after they were unable to agree on the previous candidates .
                      Hobson's ?
                      Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                      • Gordon
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1425

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        It does seem an out of the blue sort of appointment after they were unable to agree on the previous candidates .
                        The online Guardian report [there are already reports from the Times and Telegraph too] provides more details of KPs background and seems mildly welcoming suggesting however that he will be quite a different MD from Rattle whose outreach and repertoire changes [not to mention his EMI contract] have had their effect. Maybe the BPO players wanted a change? He does seem to be steeped in opera rather than orchestral repertoire but seems a talent that can fix that in time. More interesting will be the response of the German musical press [and then the audiences]. Salutary in this day and age that there have only been 3 MDs since 1954, that must be a record.

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                        • LHC
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1557

                          #13
                          There is a story on Norman Lebrecht's website (and so must be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt), that the Bavarian Staatsoper, where Petrenko is currently the MD, asked about bringing an opera to next year's proms as part of a European tour, but were turned down with the explanation that no-one knew who Kirill Petrenko was in the UK and so a performance by him was of no interest!
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7758

                            #14
                            Sean Rafftery interviewed Richard Morrison on 'In Tune' after 17.00. Apparently, Mr. Petrenko has refused to do interviews AT ANY TIME! Seems he's a very shy man who doesn't like talking to the press. It seems amazing that, in today's media hungry environment, he refuses to engage. To be head of an orchestra that travels the world on a regular basis and who generates tremendous interest will require him to be a figure head.

                            He'd better be a damn good conductor to justify ducking out of what is an essential part of the job.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30285

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                              He'd better be a damn good conductor to justify ducking out of what is an essential part of the job.
                              I like the sound of someone who doesn't jump on the publicity bandwagon, doesn't tweet, doesn't do Facebook, doesn't make himself available to all and sundry, doesn't pose in a wet T-shirt, and just gets on with the job he's been appointed to do.

                              'During an orchestra assembly last Sunday Kirill Petrenko was elected by a large majority of the members of the Berliner Philharmoniker as the Chief Conductor Designate of the orchestra and Artistic Director of the Berliner Philharmoniker Foundation. He succeeds Sir Simon Rattle, who will leave the orchestra in August of 2018.'

                              Kirill Petrenko, currently music director of the Bavarian State Opera, said: “Words cannot express my feelings – everything from euphoria and great joy to awe and disbelief. I am aware of the responsibility and high expectations of me, and I will do everything in my power to be a worthy conductor of this outstanding orchestra. Above all, however, I hope for many moments of artistic happiness in our music-making together which will reward our hard work and fill our lives as artists with meaning.”
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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