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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
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    #31
    Originally posted by DublinJimbo View Post
    [He] said he wasn't sure how much he should say to the players, that his shyness prevented him from being himself in front of them, and that he felt the rehearsal hadn't gone well.
    Hmm - I hope he's got over it, as it would somewhat hinder his ability to conduct the orchestra. Mind you, given what some people here say about the relationship between conductor & orchestra, the BPO might be quite pleased to have a conductor who found it difficult to tell them what to do.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26514

      #32
      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
      He doesn't look that much different from the other one.
      Eh...??!

      I think they are strikingly dissimilar!








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      Be interested to know others' views but this sounds like the real thing to me, Kirill Petrenko conducting in Bayreuth in 2013:



      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • jayne lee wilson
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        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        #33
        Having now recovered, following on from #23, just been listening to this...

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        ...and it evinces similar qualities - superb orchestral timbre and discipline, but a liberated, free-breathing sense of expression in the playing as well. Not quite as richly sonorous or as rivetingly dramatic as the live Asrael, but certainly evidence of a quick, close bond between conductor and orchestra. No other work of Suk's approaches Asrael really, it has an inspirational, tragic intensity - a uniquely harrowing utterance of love and loss. If you know why it speaks to you - what it tells you about yourself - it can be almost, if not literally, unbearable...

        If you love Asrael, and can still bear to hear it, Petrenko's CPO recording is essential.

        But I'm looking forward to this coming soon....

        A good time of year to hear it... heat rises like a mist off its lavish & delicate textures...

        I wonder if the Philharmoniker desired a warmer bond than may be achieved with an imported star... something of Kempe/Staatskapelle, or Kubelik with the BRSO...
        Someone to grow, rediscover and renew with, CBSO/Rattle style....

        **LATER THAT NIGHT...Kirill Petrenko's THE RIPENING (CPO Lossless Download), just fading into silence as first light breaks outside... underestimated it - it's a MAGNIFICENT performance, just terrific! Enjoyed it more than I ever did Pesek or Behlolavek.
        The Serendipity of Threads...
        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 23-06-15, 04:39.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20568

          #34
          Furtwangler, Karajan, Abbado. Rattle... Kyrill Petrenko.

          ??

          Mighty shoes to fill!

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #35
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Furtwangler, Karajan, Abbado. Rattle... Kyrill Petrenko.

            ??

            Mighty shoes to fill!
            My thoughts precisely, Alpie - but what an opportunity!



            (I also agree with Cali in#32 - the two Petrenki look very different from one another.)
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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
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              #36
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              Eh...??!

              I think they are strikingly dissimilar!

              Ah - I misunderstood ferney's post

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              He and his tee-shirt can be seen here:

              http://intermezzo.typepad.com/.a/6a0...370443d970b-pi
              which was a reply to this
              Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
              Vasily Petrenko probably wouldn't look too bad in one. I've no idea what Kirill P. looks like.

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30205

                #37
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Furtwangler, Karajan, Abbado. Rattle... Kyrill Petrenko.

                ??
                It seems his outstanding musicianship isn't doubted - merely his ability to make an impression on the UK public. Rattle had a definite advantage there …
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                  Ah - I misunderstood ferney's post

                  which was a reply to this
                  Well a reply to the final sentence in the quotation in Mary's post: "I've no idea what Kirill P. looks like."
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                  • Flosshilde
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #39
                    But it was Vasily that Mary emphasisied & mentioned in connection with teeshirts.

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                    • Stanfordian
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      It seems his outstanding musicianship isn't doubted - merely his ability to make an impression on the UK public. Rattle had a definite advantage there …
                      Kirill Petrenko has has been less than prolific in the recording studio and that will have to change quickly. I don't know what KP is like with the media but he will be expected to give talks/interviews prior to every one of his concerts.

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                      • Stanfordian
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                        He doesn't look that much different from the other one.
                        Time for a visit to Specsavers. He couldn't be much different!

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                        • underthecountertenor
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1584

                          #42
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          Sean Rafftery interviewed Richard Morrison on 'In Tune' after 17.00. Apparently, Mr. Petrenko has refused to do interviews AT ANY TIME!
                          Perhaps that's just what his agent told the ghastly Morrison.

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                          • cloughie
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22110

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                            Vasily Petrenko probably wouldn't look too bad in one. I've no idea what Kirill P. looks like.
                            A friend of mine sees him out jogging occasionally (VP). I'll ask him what he looks like? In selecting KP I hope the BPO have not done a 'Miliband' .

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                            • gurnemanz
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7379

                              #44
                              I've been reading some German newspaper reports on Petrenko's appointment. Very full background detail in the Berlin Tagesspiegel, which starts by pointing to a performance of Elgar's Second in 2009 after which the orchestra declined his invitation to stand up and receive the enthusiastic applause and instead remained seated and applauded the conductor. According to the report, this very rarely happens with the Berliners. Even then you might have guessed there could be big developments afoot between conductor and orchestra, comments the author of the piece. The appointment is nevertheless described later on as a bit of a "blank cheque". They got on well with Elgar but have never worked together on a single work from their core repertoire: nether Brahms, Beethoven, Bruckner symphonies nor anything from German Romanticism between Schumann and Strauss.

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                              • verismissimo
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2957

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                Furtwangler, Celibidache, Karajan, Abbado. Rattle... Kyrill Petrenko.
                                von Bulow, Nikisch...Furtwangler etc...
                                Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-06-15, 11:17.

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