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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8408

    #16
    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    Gawd bless yer Mister 'eldenleben, Sir.
    As I understand it, the Upstart Crow decided not to use the Christmas story he heard on the stagecoach (even though it was told by Kenneth Branagh) and predicted - correctly - that a later writer would use it. Consequently, it's Dickens who gets the blame for his role in turbocharging the growth of Christmas sentimentality.

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    • Ein Heldenleben
      Full Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 6750

      #17
      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

      So I was right that your ‘very, very welcome’ was purely theoretical!

      I shan’t be listening again.

      I don’t mind a bit of Christmas sentimentality but this was mind-numbing
      Indeed Nick. I will only listen to a programme on Christmas Music if it is presented by Johann Sebastian Bach.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 6750

        #18
        Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
        Gawd bless yer Mister 'eldenleben, Sir.
        Bah . humbug even ?

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        • AuntDaisy
          Host
          • Jun 2018
          • 1621

          #19
          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
          So I was right that your ‘very, very welcome’ was purely theoretical!
          I shan’t be listening again.
          I don’t mind a bit of Christmas sentimentality but this was mind-numbing
          Cue "Have Yourself a Myrie Little Christmas"

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30248

            #20
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

            I never thought I'd see Alan Titchmarsh and Clive Myrie named in the same sentence.
            Proms presenters?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6750

              #21
              Originally posted by LMcD View Post

              As I understand it, the Upstart Crow decided not to use the Christmas story he heard on the stagecoach (even though it was told by Kenneth Branagh) and predicted - correctly - that a later writer would use it. Consequently, it's Dickens who gets the blame for his role in turbocharging the growth of Christmas sentimentality.
              Is there a single reference to Christmas in Shakespeare? Our sentimentalising of it can be laid at the door of Prince Albert and Dickens maybe . It was turbo charged by the Americans . When I lived there in the 60’s I couldn’t believe how seriously they took it.,The Christmas display in Macy’s was extraordinary
              All of course about spending money. Another triumph of capitalism.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 10889

                #22
                Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                Is there a single reference to Christmas in Shakespeare? Our sentimentalising of it can be laid at the door of Prince Albert and Dickens maybe . It was turbo charged by the Americans . When I lived there in the 60’s I couldn’t believe how seriously they took it.,The Christmas display in Macy’s was extraordinary
                All of course about spending money. Another triumph of capitalism.
                Three, apparently:

                Why is there so little of Christmas in the works of Shakespeare? Well, the answer is simple, really. The way we celebrate that jolly season is effusive, full, and sumptuous, but

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 6750

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Yes I went on a concordance and found the same . The Love’s Labours’ Lost verse is a lovely piece of writing. It would be wrong to conclude that Christmas had little religious significance in those days but it clearly had nothing like the cultural import it has for Dickens.

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                  • smittims
                    Full Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 4081

                    #24
                    I had no idea who Clive Myrie was (and from the way he pronounces it, what his surname was) when he insisted repeatedly on sharing his favourites with me, but as I'd much rather listen to my own favourites, and I don't suppose he'd want to hear mine, we don't seem destined to share each other's company.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #25
                      The programme appears to be another example of BBC Radio 3 copying Classic FM ("The Home of Christmas Music").

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7380

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        The programme appears to be another example of BBC Radio 3 copying Classic FM ("The Home of Christmas Music").
                        Can't comment on Classic FM which I never listen to. Neither did I listen listen to the Clive Myrie show, but 'presenter plays Christmas music at Christmas' hardly seems like a copiably innovative format. I might now tune in since I find Clive Myrie's style rather appealing. He was good value on Have I Got News For You recently, receiving a temporary ban from Auntie Beeb because he made a joke about Boris Johnson.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8408

                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post

                          Proms presenters?
                          If I learn that it's going to happen on the same night, I'll make make sure that my 'Mute' button is working before I tune in.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30248

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                            If I learn that it's going to happen on the same night, I'll make make sure that my 'Mute' button is working before I tune in.
                            If you missed it the first time round, I think you're safe!

                            I was once interviewed by Clive Myrie back in his Radio Bristol days and I stopped the recording right at the beginning to register an objection. Can't explain here, not just at the moment
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • hmvman
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1097

                              #29
                              I had to fast forward through Clive Myrie's presentation bits in the Proms first night as it was so embarrassing. I remember the late, great Richard Baker who was a newsreader and also knowledgeable about classical music who presented the Proms, a R2 programme and was a panelist on 'Face the Music'. I don't remember him being as toe-curlingly embarrassing in his presentation style - but it was many years ago and I was a lot younger then!

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                              • eighthobstruction
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6432

                                #30
                                ...very very Vaaary different times....black suit /suitable tie - fly swat to wack Robin Ray....patient /tolerant folk back then....
                                bong ching

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