Off The Beaten Track

[Beef Oven!]

A thread to talk about music that we are listening to, thinking about or whatever, that is not often 'aired' - perhaps because the composer is not well known, the genre is not mainstream, or where the composer, genre etc are familiar, the work isn't seen as 'representative' (or any combination therefrom).

Today I have been listening to the solo piano works of Giacinto Scelsi and a selection of Haydn's baryton trios.

Very different music, but off the beaten track, all the same.

[richardfinegold]

This thread parallels another that Dave started about music on the verge of extinction. There was some discussion there (ok, started by me) about having a Musical 'Book Club'. We would take turns recommending a work that is little known, give people a week or longer to seek out a recording, then have a discussion.
Would you be interested?

[vinteuil]

Today I have been listening to the solo piano works of Giacinto Scelsi and a selection of Haydn's baryton trios.

... I find Scelsi worse than unlistenable-to ; the Haydn baryton stuff is enjoyable but nothing in comparison with his quartets, piano trios, piano sonatas, symphonies, masses.

I feel very old at the moment ; the little time left is precious. I am not going to waste it on anything but the best.

A bottle of beychevelle with today's duck, I think...

[Beef Oven!]

This thread parallels another that Dave started about music on the verge of extinction.

There's certainly some overlap, but I think that music that is off the beaten track is sufficiently stand alone (I don't think extinction is a possibility for the music that I have in mind).

There was some discussion there (ok, started by me) about having a Musical 'Book Club'. We would take turns recommending a work that is little known, give people a week or longer to seek out a recording, then have a discussion.
Would you be interested?

I would love to participate, but I know I wouldn't be able to keep up the commitment.

[Beef Oven!]

... I find Scelsi worse than unlistenable-to ; the Haydn baryton stuff is enjoyable but nothing in comparison with his quartets, piano trios, piano sonatas, symphonies, masses.

I feel very old at the moment ; the little time left is precious. I am not going to waste it on anything but the best.

A bottle of beychevelle with today's duck, I think...

Indeed, an excellent approach!

I'd challenge you about ''the best'', but I don't think you'd care

[BBMmk2]

I heard, and strongly recommend, a concert band wind symphony by Alan Hovanesse, his Symphony no.4 on Spotify. Will hear again, as I thought it was rather good. Great percussion parts.

[french frank]

I 'inherited' Simon Howard's Heinz Holliger CDs. Simon recommended them to me some years ago, so when I was asked if I would like to choose something from his collection, I chose those.

Most of all, I enjoyed the Violin Concerto (Zehetmair and the SWR Sinfonieorchester). There was also the Scardanelli-Zyklus (which I think will need several hearings) and the Romancendres and Gesänge der Frühe, coupled/tripled with Clara's Romanzen to make a Schumann themed disc. Simon rated Holliger - anyone else?

[Roehre]

I 'inherited' Simon Howard's Heinz Holliger CDs. Simon recommended them to me some years ago, so when I was asked if I would like to choose something from his collection, I chose those.

Most of all, I enjoyed the Violin Concerto (Zehetmair and the SWR Sinfonieorchester). There was also the Scardanelli-Zyklus (which I think will need several hearings) and the Romancendres and Gesänge der Frühe, coupled/tripled with Clara's Romanzen to make a Schumann themed disc. Simon rated Holliger - anyone else?

I love the Scardanelli cycle, especially the 4 Seasons part (choir only) which was on a Wergo LP in the late 1970s already.
It takes some time to get into the whole of the Zyklus, but for me it paid of.
In that respect the violin concerto is a much easier piece and emotionally less edgy.
His 2004 composed Induuchlen is one of my favourites, but I am not unbiased here as the poetry is in Brienz dialict, which I do understand well but don't speak myself. This applies to him too, btw. From his home Holliger overlooks the place near Interlaken where I in winter time normally stay, where the dialect is different, though only some 8 miles from Brienz.

[pastoralguy]

Well, I've banged on and on about the music of the great George Lloyd whose time, I'm positive, will come one day. What's needed is a new, outstanding set of the symphonies but no one seems to be interested.

Come on Euromillions. Let tonite be the nite!

[umslopogaas]

Not sure if this is the place to post this, but I cant find "Forgotten Composers" so this will do. Gabriel Pierne and sorry as usual, there is an acute accent on the final e but I dont know how to place it. He was only ever known to me for "The March of the Little Tin Soldiers", which was in that big Readers Digest box of classical LPs, but I no longer have it, and how long is it since anyone heard anything by Pierne?

And while we are about it, yes, George Lloyd, bring him on! I have those few symphonies as recorded on Lyrita LPs, but there must be more.

[Roehre]

Not sure if this is the place to post this, but I cant find "Forgotten Composers" so this will do. Gabriel Pierne and sorry as usual, there is an acute accent on the final e but I dont know how to place it. He was only ever known to me for "The March of the Little Tin Soldiers", which was in that big Readers Digest box of classical LPs, but I no longer have it, and how long is it since anyone heard anything by Pierne?

And while we are about it, yes, George Lloyd, bring him on! I have those few symphonies as recorded on Lyrita LPs, but there must be more.

Recently some of Pierné's music was mentioned on these threads, but e.g. hyperion recorded some of his works, including his piano concerto

All Lloyd's symphonies (+ 4 piano concertos + 2 violin concertos i.a.) are on Albany Troy.
See also this site

[french frank]

I love the Scardanelli cycle, especially the 4 Seasons part (choir only) which was on a Wergo LP in the late 1970s already.
It takes some time to get into the whole of the Zyklus, but for me it paid of.

I do intend to come back to it.

[umslopogaas]

#11 Roehre, many thanks, I will investigate.

[doversoul1]

These days, I hardly listen to the works by composers on the beaten track. I posted these links elsewhere but I am quite addicted to these two CDs at the moment.

The Trio Sonata in 17th-Century Italy

http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-1795

The Trio Sonata in 17th-Century Germany

http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-CD-1545

I enjoy listening to these composers in groups rather than individually.

[EdgeleyRob]

Recently some of Pierné's music was mentioned on these threads, but e.g. hyperion recorded some of his works, including his piano concerto

All Lloyd's symphonies (+ 4 piano concertos + 2 violin concertos i.a.) are on Albany Troy.
See also this site

Essential recordings for all George Lloyd fans,I know there are hundreds on here
What Pastoralguy and I really want is a new set recorded by the Berlin Phil/Rattle,c'mon Simon before it's too late