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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
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    Chopin Mazurkas

    I heard a young Pianist on the radio today playing a few of the Mazurkas. There seemed to be a lot of italicizing, rubato for the sake of rubato, interrupting the flow of the music. It would be hard to imagine dancing to this Pianist. These pieces are gems, each a Fabrege Egg, and while they have their share of unusual accents and of beats, i think that they can be overinterpreted to death. Artur Rubinstein was the master here.
  • visualnickmos
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3610

    #2
    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
    I heard a young Pianist on the radio today playing a few of the Mazurkas. There seemed to be a lot of italicizing, rubato for the sake of rubato, interrupting the flow of the music. It would be hard to imagine dancing to this Pianist. These pieces are gems, each a Fabrege Egg, and while they have their share of unusual accents and of beats, I think that they can be overinterpreted to death. Artur Rubinstein was the master here.

    That's the trick with Chopin, I think. Claudio Arrau also gets it sounding exactly right for my taste. More savoury than sweet, I'd say....

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 7666

      #3
      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
      That's the trick with Chopin, I think. Claudio Arrau also gets it sounding exactly right for my taste. More savoury than sweet, I'd say....
      Never heard Arrau in the Mazurkas. I really like his way with the Preludes and the Nocturnes.

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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
        • 7666

        #4
        Rats. I scanned the Claudio Arrau Chopin listings in Arkivmusic. 44 CDs, but no Mazurkas.

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        • Pianorak
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3127

          #5
          I rather like Fou Ts'ong and Vladimir Sofronitzky in the Mazurkas, although I wouldn't dismiss Ashkenazy, Rubinstein and Arrau!
          My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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          • Pianorak
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3127

            #6
            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
            Rats. I scanned the Claudio Arrau Chopin listings in Arkivmusic. 44 CDs, but no Mazurkas.
            Arrau didn't record any Mazurkas - according to his discography.
            My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              #7
              Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
              Arrau didn't record any Mazurkas - according to his discography.
              I wasn't referring to the Mazurkas specifically - more his Chopin generally..... His concertos on Philips Duo - very commanding performances.

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7666

                #8
                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                I wasn't referring to the Mazurkas specifically - more his Chopin generally..... His concertos on Philips Duo - very commanding performances.
                I haven't heard his Concertos, and perhaps I should. For me the PCs have always been the most dispensible of Chopin;s ouvre. The slow movements are what generally draw me in, and there is Pianistic brilliance everywhere on display, but compared to the Etudes, Waltzes, Poloniases, Mazurkas, Preludes, Ballades, Sonatas and Impromputus, I just don't think they stack up

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #9
                  Quite agree, RFG! I do hope pianists can learn from the past masters!
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • rauschwerk
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1481

                    #10
                    David Owen Norris, in his BaL, recommended the recent (2013) Harasiewicz set http://www.mdt.co.uk/chopin-57-mazur...nifc-2cds.html . The customer reviews on Amazon seem to back him up.

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