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Originally posted by Observation Postr View PostWhat do you think? Is there any point in contradicting a contributor whose opinion is at variance with your own and upsetting someone who has stated their personal view?
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Originally posted by Observation Postr View PostThank you for that observation. It enables me to clarify my statement with a hypothetical example:
A concert in an acceptable venue such as The Barbican given by a well-known Orchestra and Respected Conductor.
a) The patron in the auditorium hears the orchestra's interpretation of the conductor's direction and judges his reaction accordingly.
Let us suppose that he enjoys the performance, but would like to hear more from the woodwind but less from the brass section.
One of the horn players splits a high note in the first movement of the symphony
He might be bold enough to mention his considered opinion on this forum.
b) The concert is broadcast live
The audio engineer, sitting at his mixing desk with the programme's Producer sitting alongside might correct this imbalance by fading up the ww mike and reducing the mike in front of the brass - in real time, as it is happening
c) The concert is to be re-broadcast or available on the iPlayer.
Now, the Producer can get his audio man to get rid of that catastrophic split note in the symphony (By editing in a few bars from the repeated section of the symphony)
So which would you prefer?
a) The Patron's report on his reactions to the performance?
b) The Audio Engineer's adjustment to the balance of the performance?
c) Or the Producer's manipulation of what actually took place, in the interests of accuracy and to spare somebody's blushes?
I wish that I could be there at every concert, but those days have long passed.
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A verbal report on the event itself (a) is in a different category from two potential audio variants (b,c) on the broadcast event.
Nor can you choose, after the event has taken place, between (b - I take it you mean live adjustment) and (c).
When I write a review of a concert, I always say "as broadcast" about the music to make plain that this is different
from live attendance; and I note the technical details of how I listened (HDs, FM, DAB, inlayer, bitrates etc.). I hoped other listeners would do the latter but it didn't catch on - which is a shame, because it can have a huge effect on what you hear and your reaction to it (as we saw with the Rattle/Sibelius/Barbican series).
As for iPlayer, I frequently check my impressions of the live relay against it, especially if there are oddities of interpretation or balance, noises off etc. I've never yet heard any editing of the live event on these recordings - the details, balance & the overall impression are usually the same, albeit with some occasional slight loss of audio quality (immediacy, detail, dynamics etc.).
If offered a choice about an edited or unedited iPlayer version of the concert, I would always have a VERY committed preference to "as live and unedited"! In the old terminology a "deferred relay".
If I knew that split notes and other errors were to be edited out from a Radio 3 concert, I might as well stick to CDs or downloads - plenty of "live and edited" performances to choose from there...Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 20-03-15, 20:23.
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