I just don't like the noise it makes.... (those 'blind spot' pieces)

[Lento]

I forgot to add Chopin's F Minor Piano Concerto to my list as well!

I wonder if the new Ingrid Fliter, SCO recording on Hyperion might persuade you? It's due to be featured on R3 at about 11.40 this morning (Sat) - not sure which concerto.
Telegraph review below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/classicalcdreviews/10714713/Chopin-concertos-nos-1-and-2-Ingrid-Fliter-and-Scottish-Chamber-Orchestra-cond-Jun-Markl-review.html

[Sir Velo]

You're lucky to have the choice.

I had to suffer the boredom of playing in it

Hs

There I guess lies the difference between the professional musician and the genuine music lover.

[Ariosto]

Are you really tone deaf - how do you define that? Do you mean that you cannot string notes together and sing a tune or do you mean that when you are listening to music you cannot tell if it's in tune?

I have to admit that for people that do not know me of old (I'm a bit of a joker and a bit of a fraud) then you won't know how to take me. Most people on here these days that know me are ignoring me and giving me the cold shoulder.

My tone deafness is wishful thinking on my part. If you were to really twist my arm I would have to admit to having been a bit of a musician. But this is a very reluctant admission.

[Ariosto]

There I guess lies the difference between the professional musician and the genuine music lover.

Good one Sir!!

[HighlandDougie]

Most people on here these days that know me are ignoring me and giving me the cold shoulder.

I'm sorry that our lack of formal response has seemed like that. Your comment (elsewhere on these boards) about the minutiae of grammar almost made me fall of my chair laughing - so, welcome back, keep pricking our pomposities. And (ooh, starting a sentence with 'and'), anyone who has the privilege and joy of being owned by a lurcher can do (virtually) no wrong in my book.

Back on topic, Tchaikovsky's 1st Piano Concerto - at least its first movement. Just awful.

[teamsaint]

I'm sorry that our lack of formal response has seemed like that. Your comment (elsewhere on these boards) about the minutiae of grammar almost made me fall of my chair laughing - so, welcome back, keep pricking our pomposities. And (ooh, starting a sentence with 'and'), anyone who has the privilege and joy of being owned by a lurcher can do (virtually) no wrong in my book.

Back on topic, Tchaikovsky's 1st Piano Concerto - at least its first movement. Just awful.

don't agree about the PC, but the Violin Concerto..............

[Ariosto]

don't agree about the PC, but the Violin Concerto..............

Swords at dawn! PC not bad, violin concerto wonderful!

[Ariosto]

I'm sorry that our lack of formal response has seemed like that. Your comment (elsewhere on these boards) about the minutiae of grammar almost made me fall of my chair laughing - so, welcome back, keep pricking our pomposities. And (ooh, starting a sentence with 'and'), anyone who has the privilege and joy of being owned by a lurcher can do (virtually) no wrong in my book.

Many thanks. At least I can occasionally make one person laugh! I'm used to being could shouldered - par for the course! Being owned by a Lurcher is indeed a privilege.

[cloughie]

I have to admit that for people that do not know me of old (I'm a bit of a joker and a bit of a fraud) then you won't know how to take me. Most people on here these days that know me are ignoring me and giving me the cold shoulder.

My tone deafness is wishful thinking on my part. If you were to really twist my arm I would have to admit to having been a bit of a musician. But this is a very reluctant admission.

For whatever reason you missed my radar. A fraudulent, tone-deaf joker? Now what composers does that bring to mind?

[Nick Armstrong]

I also have like Suffolkcoastal always been a bit indifferent to the Chopin concertos.

To be fair, Suffy only mentioned the F minor one - I share a slight downer on that piece, especially that UTTERLY crass cadence in the last movement before the horn calls. (Indeed Suffy and I have been mentioned together in the thread about the Fliter performance, which I've recorded and will listen to and mention my views on that thread). But I love the other Chopin concerto - I mean, really love it... it's one of my favourite piano concertos.

As for real blind/deaf spot pieces... I've got some quite wide swathes of antipathy, with which I've bored the company in the past (e.g. much of Liszt and Tchaikovsky and virtually all Donizetti, Bellini and that sort of thing.)

Specific pieces would include:

Franck Symphony in d minor...

and a few which always puzzle me as being by composers whose works I normally love e.g.

Schubert 'Unfinished'
Shostakovich 13
Rachmaninov 'The Bells'
Ravel 'L'Heure Espagnole'

[Suffolkcoastal]

I love the Chopin E minor Piano Concerto and have done for many years, it is just the F minor that I can't get on with. The material is just weak and uninteresting, the slow movement comes across as endless superfluous decoration to a dull main idea. I played in a orchestra that accompanied in this concerto and I've never been so bored playing orchestrally in my life.

With the Berlioz Requiem, as I think I've mentioned before I was expecting to be overwhelmed by a great masterpiece when I first heard it, instead I found it thoroughly disappointing and often rather dull, there was nothing in it that really took hold of me and everytime I've listened to it since I have the same impression I'm afraid.

[Barbirollians]

To be fair, Suffy only mentioned the F minor one - I share a slight downer on that piece, especially that UTTERLY crass cadence in the last movement before the horn calls. (Indeed Suffy and I have been mentioned together in the thread about the Fliter performance, which I've recorded and will listen to and mention my views on that thread). But I love the other Chopin concerto - I mean, really love it... it's one of my favourite piano concertos.

As for real blind/deaf spot pieces... I've got some quite wide swathes of antipathy, with which I've bored the company in the past (e.g. much of Liszt and Tchaikovsky and virtually all Donizetti, Bellini and that sort of thing.)


Specific pieces would include:

Franck Symphony in d minor...

and a few which always puzzle me as being by composers whose works I normally love e.g.

Schubert 'Unfinished'
Shostakovich 13
Rachmaninov 'The Bells'
Ravel 'L'Heure Espagnole'

Splutter - the Unfinished Symphony . One of my favourite works of all time especially in the hands of COE/Abbado .

[BBMmk2]

I love the Schubert Unfinished, Cali, played it a couple of years ago at the school where I work, and Rach's "The Bells', as well.

Franck's D minor Symphony I have a blind spot but not his organ music, mind you having said that, some of those may sound rather dreary, at times!

[Roehre]

don't agree about the PC, but the Violin Concerto..............

Well, that latter [Tchaikovsky] concerto stinks, doesn't it

[MrGongGong]

don't agree about the PC, but the Violin Concerto..............

Spot on matey

To quote Benjamin Shorofsky

"That's not music ! That's masturbation"