I just don't like the noise it makes.... (those 'blind spot' pieces)

[Lento]

[QUOTE=A real blind spot for me is Elgar, particularly his choral pieces.[/QUOTE]

The second symphony can be quite hard work in the wrong hands, I find, perhaps because it is more "of its time" than the superb number 1 (although in some ways it is more adventurous, I guess). Daniel Harding and the LSO in last years Proms gave what I thought was an enervating performance, though others liked it.

[kea]

I like Anthony Payne's Elgar 3 better than either of the symphonies Elgar actually wrote

I think Wagner may be my biggest blind spot, I've always found his music more irritating than pleasing. Bruckner also does nothing for me but as the old saying goes... if you like Bruckner when you're 25 you have no brain, if you don't like Bruckner by the time you're 50 you have no heart. Or maybe not exactly like that but you know what I mean. >.>

[Pulcinella]

I have several blind spots, but the one that has brought about the most opprobrium (from a dear departed old friend who was on one of the EMI recordings, I think the Klemperer but perhaps the Giulini (or both)) is Beethoven's Missa Solemnis. But my friend kept on reassuring me that I would appreciate its merits one day: Dear boy, your time will come! I'm not so sure.

And I seem to have struck Jean dumb with my comment about Browne's Stabat Mater on that thread: clearly another blind spot at present!!

[Ariosto]

My blind spot is all music written before April 1st 2014.

[pastoralguy]

My blind spot is all music written before April 1st 2014.

Well, that certainly narrows it down a bit...

[Lento]

"I like Anthony Payne's Elgar 3 better than either of the symphonies Elgar actually wrote"

It's great, isn't it? I believe that some of the best "Elgarian" moments/themes are those that Payne wrote himself!

[MrGongGong]

It's great, isn't it?

No, it's not (IMV )

[Roehre]

"I like Anthony Payne's Elgar 3 better than either of the symphonies Elgar actually wrote"

It's great, isn't it? I believe that some of the best "Elgarian" moments/themes are those that Payne wrote himself!

Only one IIRC, but the players at the first performance under Andrew Davies thought it certainly was genuine Elgar .
It is great music, well done Mr.Payne for essentially putting together Elgar's extensive sketches in the right order and orchestrate them. His FF book about all this and the illustrated talk on an NMC-CD are IMO not to be missed by any elgarian.

[Roehre]

No, it's not (IMV )

Envious, mrGG ?

[MrGongGong]

Envious, mrGG ?

Not at all
Tony Payne is a fine musician indeed but i'm not sure that "finishing" Elgar was such a good idea
but fine if you like it, I guess, I'd rather have a "real" piece (from either composer)

[Serial_Apologist]

Most of The King Singers' stuff, apart from their album of English and Italian madrigals, which I gave my late father (before he was "late", that is), because he liked the KS's. As did my mum.

[Roehre]

Tony Payne is a fine musician indeed but i'm not sure that "finishing" Elgar was such a good idea
but fine if you like it, I guess, I'd rather have a "real" piece (from either composer)

with which I cannot disagree

[kea]

Not at all
Tony Payne is a fine musician indeed but i'm not sure that "finishing" Elgar was such a good idea
but fine if you like it, I guess, I'd rather have a "real" piece (from either composer)

heh

I don't look upon it as a "completion" as such a thing is impossible—more as the compositional equivalent of HIP: an entirely new style created under the pretenses of trying to restore an old one. Just as with Cooke/Mahler or Newbould/Schubert, this is not at all the symphony Elgar would have written; and also not the kind of piece Payne would have composed left to his own devices. Still, I find it rather enjoyable to listen to, and see no reason we should not eventually have an Elgar 4, 5, 6, etc, so long as suspension of disbelief isn't challenged too much.

[Hornspieler]

heh

I don't look upon it as a "completion" as such a thing is impossible—more as the compositional equivalent of HIP: an entirely new style created under the pretenses of trying to restore an old one. Just as with Cooke/Mahler or Newbould/Schubert, this is not at all the symphony Elgar would have written; and also not the kind of piece Payne would have composed left to his own devices. Still, I find it rather enjoyable to listen to, and see no reason we should not eventually have an Elgar 4, 5, 6, etc, so long as suspension of disbelief isn't challenged too much.

Hear, Hear!

I am in total agreement. Tony Payne is a fine musician and composer in his own right.
It is a pity that he could only gain recognition by interpreting another great composer's intentions.
Yes, the same can be said of Deryck Cooke and Mahler's supposed 10th symphony.

HS

[Barbirollians]

I couldn't abide the King's Singers . Their appearances on BBC1 shows in the 1970s put me off classical singing for about 15 years .