I just don't like the noise it makes.... (those 'blind spot' pieces)

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  • Black Swan

    #61
    Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
    A few blind spots:

    Mahler: The Song of the Earth, Symphonies 2, 3, 5, 7 & 8
    Britten: The Golden Vanity, Childrens Crusade, Owen Wingrave, The Prodigal Son
    Elgar: The Dream of Gerontius
    Stravinsky: Persephone, Abraham and Isaac
    Most Bellini
    W A Mozart: Cosi Fan Tutte
    Handel Operas
    Bizet: Carmen
    Faure: Requiem
    Berlioz: Requiem
    Shapero: Symphony for Classical Orchestra
    most Birtwistle, Turnage and Colin Matthews
    Very interesting list Suffolkcoastal,

    I agree with many and not with a few. I love Handel Opera's and all the Mahler Symphonies as well as bits of Bellini's Norma.

    However, I totally agree with the rest.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22182

      #62
      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
      A few blind spots:

      Mahler: The Song of the Earth, Symphonies 2, 3, 5, 7 & 8
      Britten: The Golden Vanity, Childrens Crusade, Owen Wingrave, The Prodigal Son
      Elgar: The Dream of Gerontius
      Stravinsky: Persephone, Abraham and Isaac
      Most Bellini
      W A Mozart: Cosi Fan Tutte
      Handel Operas
      Bizet: Carmen
      Faure: Requiem
      Berlioz: Requiem
      Shapero: Symphony for Classical Orchestra
      most Birtwistle, Turnage and Colin Matthews
      I think some of those above eg Handel operas are more 'ear ache' thn blind spots. Interesting Sc that as the boards' 'Serial Symphony Man' and R3 archivist you have problems with Mahler Syms.

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      • Suffolkcoastal
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3292

        #63
        I forgot to add Chopin's F Minor Piano Concerto to my list as well! I find a lot of Mahler intensely claustrophobic and I feel like I'm being confined in a straightjacket in a padded cell with the walls moving slowly towards me and I'm being drained of all energy. Try as I might I can't escape that sort of feeling. With Handel Operas, despite trying a number they just leave me cold and bored and drag on for what seems like an eternity, even though the odd aria is sometimes quite appealing. Colin Matthews orchestration and general soundworld just gives me a headache.

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        • Black Swan

          #64
          Really, interesting comments. And as always we agree to disagree. It is interesting to me what others feel about music. For me as stated before, I own no recordings of Shostakovich. I have tried but I don't get the music so I leave it to others who do. I also have like Suffolkcoastal always been a bit indifferent to the Chopin concertos.

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16123

            #65
            Not wishing to spoil the fun, but shouldn't this thread be entitled "Deaf spot" pieces?

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            • Roehre

              #66
              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
              Not wishing to spoil the fun, but shouldn't this thread be entitled "Deaf spot" pieces?


              My deaf spots are concentrated in essentailly one era: baroque music - including Handel, but with the exception of JSBach.
              further: opera in general (though Mozart, Wagner, Verdi, Puccini many 20C scores the exceptions confirming this "rule")
              The one composer who is a blind spot, bot musically and politically, is Carl Orff and weren't he a deaf spot, then I would boycott him anyway for his politics.

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              • Sir Velo
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                • Oct 2012
                • 3259

                #67
                I find some of these so-called blind spots surprising in fellow music lovers. Personally, I have a wide ranging taste in music and can adapt my listening ear readily from renaissance polyphony to the micropolyphony of Ligeti. I will however confess to a slight problem with warbling, particularly early in the morning. Late victorian choral works and some faintly insipid song cycles from the same period are the nearest I get to dislike of a whole genre.

                How anyone cannot listen to the Berlioz Requiem without the hairs on the nape of the neck standing at the Tuba Mirum is beyond me.

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                • Ariosto

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                  I find some of these so-called blind spots surprising in fellow music lovers. Personally, I have a wide ranging taste in music and can adapt my listening ear readily from renaissance polyphony to the micropolyphony of Ligeti. I will however confess to a slight problem with warbling, particularly early in the morning. Late victorian choral works and some faintly insipid song cycles from the same period are the nearest I get to dislike of a whole genre.

                  How anyone cannot listen to the Berlioz Requiem without the hairs on the nape of the neck standing at the Tuba Mirum is beyond me.
                  Please Sir, my answer was only really a joke! Really!

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3259

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ariosto View Post
                    Please Sir, my answer was only really a joke! Really!

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22182

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                      I forgot to add Chopin's F Minor Piano Concerto to my list as well! I find a lot of Mahler intensely claustrophobic and I feel like I'm being confined in a straightjacket in a padded cell with the walls moving slowly towards me and I'm being drained of all energy. Try as I might I can't escape that sort of feeling. With Handel Operas, despite trying a number they just leave me cold and bored and drag on for what seems like an eternity, even though the odd aria is sometimes quite appealing. Colin Matthews orchestration and general soundworld just gives me a headache.
                      trangely enough I do not have a problem with the Chopin PCs - I've always liked 1 since hearing the very young Pollini (w Kletzki and the Philharmonia) many years ago but I still can't get on with most of his solo piano works but have recently heard the Samson Francois CDs and his individual approach to them makes them sound less like Chopin and I almost liked them. Maybe I'll buy them and persevere! I like Colin Matthews orchestrations of Debussy.

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                      • Ariosto

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        Not wishing to spoil the fun, but shouldn't this thread be entitled "Deaf spot" pieces?
                        Interesting point Ahinton - just the job, as I'm tone deaf. (But that on it's own does NOT qualify me to become a conductor). (Unless it's AC/DC)

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22182

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Ariosto View Post
                          Interesting point Ahinton - just the job, as I'm tone deaf. (But that on it's own does NOT qualify me to become a conductor). (Unless it's AC/DC)
                          Are you really tone deaf - how do you define that? Do you mean that you cannot string notes together and sing a tune or do you mean that when you are listening to music you cannot tell if it's in tune?

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25225

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                            I forgot to add Chopin's F Minor Piano Concerto to my list as well! I find a lot of Mahler intensely claustrophobic and I feel like I'm being confined in a straightjacket in a padded cell with the walls moving slowly towards me and I'm being drained of all energy. Try as I might I can't escape that sort of feeling. With Handel Operas, despite trying a number they just leave me cold and bored and drag on for what seems like an eternity, even though the odd aria is sometimes quite appealing. Colin Matthews orchestration and general soundworld just gives me a headache.
                            That is exactly how I feel when I go into a DIY superstore.

                            Which is infrequently. though less frequently than I ought to ,probably.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Hornspieler
                              Late Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1847

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                              I find some of these so-called blind spots surprising in fellow music lovers. How anyone cannot listen to the Berlioz Requiem without the hairs on the nape of the neck standing at the Tuba Mirum is beyond me.
                              You're lucky to have the choice.

                              I had to suffer the boredom of playing in it

                              Hs

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                              • edashtav
                                Full Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 3671

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                                I forgot to add Chopin's F Minor Piano Concerto to my list as well!
                                "Hear! Hear!" or

                                "Not Here, Not Here!"

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