I just don't like the noise it makes.... (those 'blind spot' pieces)

[Beef Oven!]

Of course there was a superfluity of good music about - including his Bobship - it was the mid 60s after all.

So why do so many of you go Ape-poop over it?

[teamsaint]

There are a number of C20th VCs that show off the violin in an unpleasant way.

oh don't just leave that hanging there , Cloughie.........

Anyway on Zimmo, his voice may not be to everybody's taste, but a truly great songwriter in anybody's book?

( I'm assuming Gongers doesn't have a book,and has some sort of electro gadget instead?)

[MrGongGong]

oh don't just leave that hanging there , Cloughie.........

Anyway on Zimmo, his voice may not be to everybody's taste, but a truly great songwriter in anybody's book?

( I'm assuming Gongers doesn't have a book,and has some sort of electro gadget instead?)

If you mean lyricist then yes
but composer :sad face:

Tom Waits knocks him completely off the planet

(I have many books, can't stand the reading off a screen thing)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I love Gilbert, Sullivan has his moments too - so long as he stays away from serious or continental music

(quite good "continental" stuff in The Gonorrheas, though.)

[cloughie]

So why do so many of you go Ape-poop over it?

Sorry I used the wrong word there I meant to infer it was a golden age with loads of great stuff around!

[cloughie]

(quite good "continental" stuff in The Gonorrheas, though.)

CLAPtrap, ferney!

[MrGongGong]

CLAPtrap, ferney!

Between movements ?

(I'll get my coat)

[cloughie]

oh don't just leave that hanging there , Cloughie.........

'There are a number of C20th VCs that show off the violin in an unpleasant way.'

ts what I mean is that I like a nice tune and sound with the violin and with the limited time I have to listen to music whose catgut and scrapy don't meet my ears with joy. All may be perfectly well written things which other boarders love but do I want to spend a lot of my time listening to Violin Concertos by Bartok, Britten, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Schoenberg, Nielsen and Berg - and Sibelius which is suffering overexposure? No, they're not blind spots they just assault my ears. I do however want to hear many other works by these composers and will happily hear Elgar, Delius, Barber and some other C20th violin works.

[ahinton]

'There are a number of C20th VCs that show off the violin in an unpleasant way.'

ts what I mean is that I like a nice tune and sound with the violin and with the limited time I have to listen to music whose catgut and scrapy don't meet my ears with joy. All may be perfectly well written things which other boarders love but do I want to spend a lot of my time listening to Violin Concertos by Bartok, Britten, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Schoenberg, Nielsen and Berg - and Sibelius which is suffering overexposure? No, they're not blind spots they just assault my ears. I do however want to hear many other works by these composers and will happily hear Elgar, Delius, Barber and some other C20th violin works.

Whilst there's no more accounting for personal taste in 20th century violin concertos than in anything else in music, I fear that I fail entirely to figure out what constitutes aural assault or a showing off of the violin in an unpleasant way either in the concertos that you mention or indeed in the two each by Roslavets, McCabe, Rawsthorne, Malipiero, Dohnányi and Szymanowski, the seven by Bacewicz, the Bloch, the Maw, the Walton and those by Glazunov, Pfitzner, Menotti, Rochberg, Khachaturian, Rubbra, Dutilleux, Korngold, Goldschmidt, Holmboe, Ligeti, Jolivet, Frankel, Carter, Blacher, Skalkottas, Reger, Brian, Schoeck, Karłowicz, Stevenson, Weinberg, Delius, Sessions, Zimmermann, Alwyn and any that you can find by Merikanto - and that's just for starters...

[Nick Armstrong]

Roslavets, McCabe, Rawsthorne, Malipiero, Dohnányi and Szymanowski, the seven by Bacewicz, the Bloch, the Maw, the Walton and those by Glazunov, Pfitzner, Menotti, Rochberg, Khachaturian, Rubbra, Dutilleux, Korngold, Goldschmidt, Holmboe, Ligeti, Jolivet, Frankel, Carter, Blacher, Skalkottas, Reger, Brian, Schoeck, Karłowicz, Stevenson, Weinberg, Delius, Sessions, Zimmermann, Alwyn and any that you can find by Merikanto - and that's just for starters...

Tom Lehrer song, anyone?

Hinton & Sullivan has a certain ring....

[Bryn]

Tom Lehrer song, anyone?

Hinton & Sullivan has a certain ring....

It does tend to crop up periodically. ( I've already got me coat.)

[ahinton]

It does tend to crop up periodically. ( I've already got me coat.)

Was your coat on the table?

Anyway - elementary, my dear Watson.

(I'd better get mine now)...

[ahinton]

Hinton & Sullivan has a certain ring

Oh, no it doesn't! (Sullivan does little for me, I'm afraid, preferring as I do G&T to G&S)...

[cloughie]

Oh, no it doesn't! (Sullivan does little for me, I'm afraid, preferring as I do G&T to G&S)...

Gilbert? Sullivan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8

[ahinton]

Gilbert? Sullivan?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8

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