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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11697

    Mozart K 563

    This is not a work that I know well but listening to it tonight on the Grumiaux recording of the String Quintets it is the " filler " I am struck by how extraordinarily modern a piece it sounds and it is one of those works that makes one think what a different musical world we almost might live in had Mozart been spared another 20 years . It has none of the sweet beauty of so many of his string quartets and almost seems an angry, questing work of music .

    Stunning .
  • Ferretfancy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3487

    #2
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    This is not a work that I know well but listening to it tonight on the Grumiaux recording of the String Quintets it is the " filler " I am struck by how extraordinarily modern a piece it sounds and it is one of those works that makes one think what a different musical world we almost might live in had Mozart been spared another 20 years . It has none of the sweet beauty of so many of his string quartets and almost seems an angry, questing work of music .

    Stunning .
    It's extraordinary how Mozart could invoke disturbing moods even when he was very young. One of his youthful string quartets, I think it's K174, has a tragic depth that you would not expect from one so young.

    My copy of the Grumiaux set of the string quintets comes as 2 CDs in a slip case, and it doesn't contain K 563 unfortunately, but if I had to rescue my collection in a hurry,it would be a top priority!

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Hyperbole is inadequate - simply one of the very greatest works by one of the very greatest Musical minds ever. (And, in Grumiaux, one its greatest recordings)

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        I only have the recording in the Brilliant Classics Complete Mozart, and a somewhat HIPP 1977 offering from principals in Collegium Aureum. The latter is the more impressive of the two, but I have just ordered the Grumiaux, which these days also comes on a double album with other trios and duos from members of ASMF et al:



        ASIN: B0000041EK

        The triple album with the quintets is at ASIN: B000065TV7.

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        • JFLL
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 780

          #5
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          This is not a work that I know well but listening to it tonight on the Grumiaux recording of the String Quintets it is the " filler " .....
          Some filler! It was discussed in a BAL a couple of years ago, when I think the Grumiaux recording was recommended. Thread here:
          http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?7603-BaL-23-02-13-Mozart-s-Divertimento-for-String-Trio-K563

          Pure delight from beginning to end (the work, not the thread ).

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          • richardfinegold
            Full Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 7667

            #6
            I think I remember hearing this piece arranged once for full string Orchestra and as with other conflations of Chamber works, it misses the that sense of striving and strain and gains a sense of mass that just doesn't seem right.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25210

              #7
              thread title is a bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing......

              but thanks.
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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                Originally posted by JFLL View Post
                Some filler! It was discussed in a BAL a couple of years ago, when I think the Grumiaux recording was recommended. Thread here:
                http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?7603-BaL-23-02-13-Mozart-s-Divertimento-for-String-Trio-K563

                Pure delight from beginning to end (the work, not the thread ).
                Perusing that thread and noting the contributions from Julien Sorel, I was prompted to remind all of the Concert in memory of Simon Howard (who posted here as Julien Sorel) at City University on Tuesday 24 March. A understand a number of present and past contributors here and on the old BBC Classical Forum will be participating.

                Unquiet lullabies, dream-visions of nightless night, sound-images of time stilled and time reversed … A concert tribute to the poet Simon Howard (1960–2013), based around the themes that pervade his work and featuring contributions from the many composers and performers who were his friends.

                PROGRAMME:

                RICHARD BARRETT – lost for piano
                J.S. BACH – Prelude and Fugue in C# minor (WTC Bk 1)
                JOHN HAILS – Enlightenment for harp and electronics (WP)
                ALISTAIR ZALDUA – contrejours for piano and electronics
                HEINRICH BIBER – Passagalia ‘The Guardian Angel’, from Mystery Sonatas
                RICHARD BARRETT – tendril for harp and electronics (UKP)
                BARBARA WOOF – Utopians for fixed-media electronics (WP)
                EVAN JOHNSON – three reversed movements, to bring destroyed objects back to life for piano
                ANDREW NOBLE – The Laugh of the Medusa for speaking pianist (UKP)
                PHILIPP BLUME– Departures: for Simon Howard (WP) for 4-channel electroacoustic sound [based on a text by Yiannis Ritsos]
                PHILIP VENABLES – Numbers 91-95 for speaker (with tape recorders), flute, harp and woodblock [text by Simon Howard]

                Pavlos Antoniadis (piano)
                Milana Zarić (harp)
                Richard Barrett (electronics)
                Persephone Gibbs (Baroque violin)

                FREE ADMISSION, all welcome.

                Directions: http://www.city.ac.uk/visit

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                Address: Performance Space (ALG10), College Building, City University London,, London
                Against the Day: A concert for Simon Howard (1960-2013)

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                • EdgeleyRob
                  Guest
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12180

                  #9
                  The 2nd movement Adagio is the most beautiful thing written by Mozart IMO.

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7389

                    #10
                    Prompted by the thread I played the Grumiaux today. Beautiful playing and ideal stereo balance.

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                    • gamba
                      Late member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 575

                      #11
                      Would agree with all comments re. Grumiaux. However am also clutching another version to my breast. Copied from a R3
                      Broadcast a few years ago. Zimmermann, Tamestit, Poltera,, Edinburgh festival, 2012. The cello featured more strongly than is usual, always a means to manipulate my feelings ! Am hoping to have mine see daylight again soon & back to Bach Suites no.s 1 & 3, the easier ones..

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