Women Composers' Thread/International Women's Day 2015 on R3

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  • Don Petter

    'C'est magnifique, et c'est de la Guerre!'

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
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      I've become much happier about recommending posts on the Radio 3 Facebook page (no, you don't have to join) lately. There are several clips of women composers talking, which some may have missed: Lutyens, Weir, Musgrave, Beamish.

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      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        I’ll post this on the EMS board but for a wider audience (), this will be good.

        This week’s Early Music Show


        Lucie Skeaping on Barbara Strozzi (1619 – 1677)

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37691

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          I've become much happier about recommending posts on the Radio 3 Facebook page (no, you don't have to join) lately. There are several clips of women composers talking, which some may have missed: Lutyens, Weir, Musgrave, Beamish.

          https://www.facebook.com/bbcradio3
          "The feeling that I should scream if I heard a cadence again" - Liz Lutyens.

          Amen to that!!!

          (Sorry - I just have to laugh at my own peerless wit!)

          Edit: Thanks for the link, ff, I should have said: it seems to provide limited access to programmes one may have missed that are on iPlayer - I hadn't realised.
          Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 06-03-15, 16:16.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30302

            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            it seems to provide limited access to programmes one may have missed that are on iPlayer - I hadn't realised.
            I think it's just clips which are available for as long as the programme is available on the iPlayer. But worth keeping an eye out for. E. Smyth now added. And there was some archive of Alma Mahler a few days ago.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37691

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              I think it's just clips which are available for as long as the programme is available on the iPlayer. But worth keeping an eye out for. E. Smyth now added. And there was some archive of Alma Mahler a few days ago.
              Yes I noticed it's mainly just clips - and then mostly only for a short time. My fault for not noticing the Robert Wyatt item on Tuesday sooner!

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                A real "plus" to this enterprise is that, for one day only, we'll be hearing mostly music new to most listeners.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  A real "plus" to this enterprise is that, for one day only, we'll be hearing mostly music new to most listeners.

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    A real "plus" to this enterprise is that, for one day only, we'll be hearing mostly music new to most listeners.
                    Excellent observation.

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                    • Roehre

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      A real "plus" to this enterprise is that, for one day only, we'll be hearing mostly music new to most listeners.
                      Indeed. But unfortunately the selection could be definitely more aimed at quality, in stead of based on gender only.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37691

                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                        Indeed. But unfortunately the selection could be definitely more aimed at quality, in stead of based on gender only.
                        I'm suspending judgement for now.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          I'm suspending judgement for now.
                          Fair comment.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                            Indeed. But unfortunately the selection could be definitely more aimed at quality, in stead of based on gender only.
                            Now, now! Why should IWD be treated differently from the selections on the other 364 days of the year?
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Roehre

                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              Now, now! Why should IWD be treated differently from the selections on the other 364 days of the year?
                              Specifically looking at TtN: Because the pool from which to draw is much smaller than for the male composers, which in itself is not very wide, looking at the quite regular repeats of works during TtN.
                              To give some examples:
                              Why not programming Grace Williams' Violin concerto, which recording was made by the BBC especially for the CotW about her?
                              Why progamming Gertrude van den Bergh as well as Van Rennes, even in the Netherlands considered to be second rate?
                              Why not programming the Felix Mendelssohn's works which were published as his but turned out to be his sister's?

                              To me this TtN tastes like a cobbled-together programme based on quickly available recordings and hardly any specific research, if at all.

                              Bur yes: most of it is generally terra incognita for (even) R3 listeners

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30302

                                Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                                To me this TtN tastes like a cobbled-together programme based on quickly available recordings and hardly any specific research, if at all.
                                Let's be fair: they are indeed limited to what's available - i.e. music which the EBU members are able to offer as having been broadcast on the various stations. It's not about research so much as selection and assembly ...
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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