Women Composers' Thread/International Women's Day 2015 on R3

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  • Don Petter

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30329

      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
      I have been asking this from the beginning of this thread. Beyond listing their names and works, is there really anything to talk about ‘women composers and their music*’that is distinct from the music composed by men? I am genuinely curious.

      If anyone is going to answer, please do so in your own words and not by posting links.
      What I meant was 'talking about the women composers and music that has been played by Radio 3 in connection with their International Women's Day celebration'. That's what makes them/it 'distinct' .
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Beef Oven!
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        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        What I meant was 'talking about the women composers and music that has been played by Radio 3 in connection with their International Women's Day celebration'. That's what makes them/it 'distinct' .

        Is there a list? Else we're flying blind.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30329

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          Is there a list? Else we're flying blind.
          There have been programme playlists for what has been played so far, haven't there?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • P. G. Tipps
            Full Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 2978

            Strange old thread, and becoming stranger as it goes along ...

            Still, I think I'll stick to my wholly gender-neutral, anti-sexist position on the matter, however bizarrely 'myopic' this appears to some!

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              I think I must be from Jupiter.

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              • doversoul1
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                • Dec 2010
                • 7132

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                What I meant was 'talking about the women composers and music that has been played by Radio 3 in connection with their International Women's Day celebration'. That's what makes them/it 'distinct' .
                Sorry to be thick but distinct from what? Or do you mean what we think about these composers’ works regardless of the composers being women?

                Beefy
                Look at Through the Night on Sunday (for example). Six hours of music all composed by women. Listed with the names of the composers and the performers. Hat off to the production team.
                For International Women's Day, Catriona Young presents music by women through the ages.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                  Sorry to be thick but distinct from what? Or do you mean what we think about these composers’ works regardless of the composers being women?

                  Beefy
                  Look at Through the Night on Sunday (for example). Six hours of music all composed by women. Listed with the names of the composers and the performers. Hat off to the production team.
                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b051zvvg
                  Many thanks doversoul - most helpful

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    ["Neuter" is what some people claim to put on forms when asked to indicate "gender". On electronic forms, this subversion isn't normally possible. ]

                    But may I add my thanks to doversoul for pointing out the Through the Night listings.
                    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 05-03-15, 19:33.

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30329

                      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                      Sorry to be thick but distinct from what?
                      I put it in bold: has been played by Radio 3 in connection with their International Women's Day celebration as distinct from women composers in general or their music in general.That defines what I thought the thread was to be about - what people had been hearing on Radio 3 in the last few days.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        I think I must be from Jupiter.
                        Beats originating from Sirius, without doubt! (and as a certain one-time doyen of the game that Schönberg enjoyed playing with Gershwin 80 or so years ago might have put it, "you cain't be Sirius?!" - and, of course, Schönberg himself understood what it was to breath the air of other planets, arguably somewhat better than Holst did...)

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                        • doversoul1
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7132

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          I put it in bold: has been played by Radio 3 in connection with their International Women's Day celebration as distinct from women composers in general or their music in general.That defines what I thought the thread was to be about - what people had been hearing on Radio 3 in the last few days.
                          Ah, thanks. In that case, I can’t recommend this week’s Composer of the Week highly enough. Both the music and the presentation are absolutely delightful.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37710

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                            But may I add my thanks to doversoul for pointing out the Through the Night listings.
                            Seconded! The works and their composers are to be found in RT, but in a very condensed form and in tiny print, so this is most useful. The only piece there that I already have is the Lili Boulanger Nocturne - very Cesar Franck in idiom, (but don't tell Caliban!!!) so I think it must be an early work of hers. All but 3 of the composers there are brand new to me, admittedly many of them out of my usual timezone, but which nonetheless probably corroborates points others have made about neglect.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Seconded! The works and their composers are to be found in RT, but in a very condensed form and in tiny print, so this is most useful. The only piece there that I already have is the Lili Boulanger Nocturne - very Cesar Franck in idiom, (but don't tell Caliban!!!) so I think it must be an early work of hers.
                              Sadly, there are no late works by Lili B.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26540

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                (but don't tell Caliban!!!)
                                Eh...? What...?

                                Ah... I see... yes, that sounds franckly disappointing...

                                What was not disappointing was the discovery this week of Mme Jacquet de la Guerre - I completely agree that


                                Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                                I can’t recommend this week’s Composer of the Week highly enough. Both the music and the presentation are absolutely delightful.
                                ... R3 at its considerable best
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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