Women Composers' Thread/International Women's Day 2015 on R3

[Beef Oven!]

Quite, but could we get back to being a bit more focused on women composers and their music. Rather than just talking about women in general?

I have often posted about Joan Tower (b. 06/09/38). I really like her Concerto For Orchestra, which is available on Naxos. As is her glorious 'DNA' which is on an 'American Music For Percussion' compilation.

[MrGongGong]

I have been asking this from the beginning of this thread. Beyond listing their names and works, is there really anything to talk about ‘women composers and their music*’that is distinct from the music composed by men? I am genuinely curious.

There are plenty of things to read and find out if you look

http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/women_and_music/

The rather bizarre idea that somehow location & nationality is OK to refer to but somehow gender isn't is a bit ridiculous IMV

Mr Tipps's (is that the right ' ?) idea that

Women, like men, should be judged entirely on ability.

Would be great if it was true, put simply they aren't and haven't been in the past.
Which is why we need things like this

[ahinton]

Ah, but there's the rub. Elizabeth Lutyens is probably being sidelined because her compositions are perceived by the R3 impressarios to be too challenging for their Breakfast/Essential Classics/In Tune/Saturday Classics preferred audience.

But even so, these are not the only R3 programmes on which her music could be featured but generally isn't!

And, Flossie, by "Back to Normal", I meant just what you said. To have 39 years and 364 days of music by male composers, followed by one day of music by women composers - it's not okay.

No, indeed it isn't - and perhaps the most constructive outcome of a day of music by women composers broadcast on R3 is the learning (by those who create programmes there) of the lesson that far more music by women composers should far more frequently be broadcast than is or ever has been the case - and without any fuss about the fact of the music having been composed by women who, like male composers, happen all to be human beings, actually...

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It isn't "gender" - it's "sex". In most other languages, the moon and the sea are feminine, but they aren't female. The world and sun are masculine, but they aren't male.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Mr Tipps's (is that the right ' ?)

Yup - or " Tipps' ", if you prefer.

(On the subject of "s-es", it doez zeem a pity that even zome of Mz Lutyen'z admirerz zpell her firzt name incorrectly. )

Would be great if it was true, put simply they aren't and haven't been in the past.
Which is why we need things like this

[vinteuil]

It isn't "gender" - it's "sex".

...ummm.

"I think you'll find it's a little more complicated than that... "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies

[Serial_Apologist]

(On the subject of "s-es", it doez zeem a pity that even zome of Mz Lutyen'z admirerz zpell her firzt name incorrectly. )

That was how it was spelt (spelled?) in the book - I changed to a zee in consequence!

[Beef Oven!]

Still talking about women composers and their music, it is interesting to note the dis-proportionately high number of women pioneers of electronic music. Don't you think?

[MrGongGong]

Still talking about women composers and their music, it is interesting to note the dis-proportionately high number of women pioneers of electronic music. Don't you think?

Excellent stuff
I think we should club together to buy a copy of Software for People (Pauline's 1st book) for PG Tippex

[ahinton]

(On the subject of "s-es", it doez zeem a pity that even zome of Mz Lutyen'z admirerz zpell her firzt name incorrectly. )

In my experienz, thiz tendz to happen when people mixez up their Lutyenzes with their Maconchyz, methinkz.

[Beef Oven!]

And what about Delia Derbyshire's Dr Who music? (forget Ron Grainer, I think I read somewhere that he didn't even recognise his sketches after Delia worked her magic!)

[MrGongGong]

http://daphneoram.org

[Beef Oven!]

http://daphneoram.org

[Flosshilde]

It isn't "gender" - it's "sex". In most other languages, the moon and the sea are feminine, but they aren't female. The world and sun are masculine, but they aren't male.

But not in English, which is the language we are communicating in here. So the discussion quite reasonably uses 'gender' in preference to 'sex', which has other connotations.

[Beef Oven!]

Still talking about women composers and their music, here's a bit more on Eliane Radigue