Simon Rattle and the new London concert hall...

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  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6459

    #76
    where next for Alan? I reckon CBSO would be about right ...

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25210

      #77
      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
      The idea of Alan Gilbert succeeding Simon Rattle is laughable. It's about as likely as me being twice struck by lightning on my way to collect the lottery triple rollover jackpot accompanied by Lord Lucan and Elvis Presley.
      i was thinking that recordings of Rouse symphonies 3 and 4 might be a more realistic hope from AG.


      i think they send a taxi if you win the triple Rollover, BTW.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Cockney Sparrow
        Full Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 2284

        #78
        PM Programme on R4 . At about 5.38pm. Rattle was asked about the LSO job , acknowledged working with them a lot in next year, praised the musicians highly ("best musicians in the world spread out among the London Orchestras" (!!)). He alluded to the gruelling working regime in London compared with, well, anywhere else and by implication the effect on performance standards, and the lack of a great concert hall (Barbican .... "is..."(Pause)"....adequate" at best) and some comment (vis-a-vis the LSO job) that there would be matters, not least on the above subjects, that would need to be sorted out in the forthcoming (year??).
        Then followed an interview with an acoustician.

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12255

          #79
          Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
          PM Programme on R4 . At about 5.38pm. Rattle was asked about the LSO job , acknowledged working with them a lot in next year, praised the musicians highly ("best musicians in the world spread out among the London Orchestras" (!!)). He alluded to the gruelling working regime in London compared with, well, anywhere else and by implication the effect on performance standards, and the lack of a great concert hall (Barbican .... "is..."(Pause)"....adequate" at best) and some comment (vis-a-vis the LSO job) that there would be matters, not least on the above subjects, that would need to be sorted out in the forthcoming (year??).
          Then followed an interview with an acoustician.
          Is the work regime for London orchestras as gruelling as it was? In the good old, bad old days, concert programmes were given just once and rehearsals were usually in a different hall to where the concert was to take place. Surely, it's bit more relaxed nowadays? Just look at the BBC Symphony Orchestra's schedule for the Proms in the 1970s for a definition of gruelling!
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26539

            #80
            Short interview between SDR and the even more improbably-coiffured Will Gompertz on BBC TV News this evening, inc. quick rehearsal extracts

            One of the world's most eminent conductors has told the BBC that London's concert halls are not up to international standards.
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11700

              #81
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              where next for Alan? I reckon CBSO would be about right ...
              If I were from Brum I would riot a major come down from Andris Nelssons

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11700

                #82
                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                I've just heard on Classic FM news that Alan Gilbert has stepped down as conductor of the New York Philharmonic and they linked his name as a possible replacement for Simon Rattle at the Berliner Philharmoniker. The most lacklustre performance of any concert I have heard was Alan Gilbert conducting the touring New York Philharmonic at the Philharmonie, Munich in 2011 playing Beethoven’s Symphony No. 3 ‘Eroica’. It’s only one performance I know but it was truly poor.
                Surely it wasn't as bad as the Beethoven 9 he conducted at the Proms ?

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  Short interview between SDR and the even more improbably-coiffured Will Gompertz on BBC TV News this evening, inc. quick rehearsal extracts

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31431555
                  The "principle (sic) conductor", I see! Is this the same nterview that was broadcast on R4 that Cockney Sparrow refers to? The vocabulary is similar ("The Barbican is ... serviceable").

                  Has anybody asked Rattle why he's leaving the BPO?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #84
                    They don't seem to struck by him leaving?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30306

                      #85
                      In the meantime, while we're waiting, has anyone yet noted here the Wigmore début for Sir Si and MK, with SD 'on' piano?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #86
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        In the meantime, while we're waiting, has anyone yet noted here the Wigmore début for Sir Si and MK, with SD 'on' piano?
                        Subsidised tickets for the under 35s? Can't they think of a more effective way of developing the audience (and less discriminatory)?

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30306

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Subsidised tickets for the under 35s? Can't they think of a more effective way of developing the audience (and less discriminatory)?
                          Curiously enough, I emailed them earlier this morning to ask what reasons the BBC might have for not filming a recital (eg the Monday lunchtime one) - e.g. rights or something. Wigmore will be streaming some performances live soon, it seems.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Zucchini
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 917

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            where next for Alan? I reckon CBSO would be about right ...
                            Just a small problem - that at the NYPO he's been earning well over $1,000,000 pa (about £750k)

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30306

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                              Just a small problem - that at the NYPO he's been earning well over $1,000,000 pa (about £750k)
                              And if he's going to commute ... :-)
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                #90
                                they've just played a clip of Simon Denis implying that Paris has our nearest decent concert hall - does this mean that he doesn't rate Birmingham Symphony Hall or Bridgewater Hall either ?

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