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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26539

    #61
    Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
    Jurowski for Berlin?
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    Britain needs him.
    I can tell you for definite that Vladimir J due to remain Principal Conductor and Artistic Advisor to the LPO until at least 2018
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25210

      #62
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      I can tell you for definite that Vladimir J due to remain Principal Conductor and Artistic Advisor to the LPO until at least 2018
      Why does that date ring a bell......?

      must dash , need to ring my bookie......
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26539

        #63
        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        Why does that date ring a bell......?

        must dash , need to ring my bookie......

        Dunno... Southampton for the Cup?
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25210

          #64
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post

          Dunno... Southampton for the Cup?
          I'll be needing a very obliging bookie indeed to make with part with any folding stuff on THAT outcome !!
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6459

            #65
            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
            Hello Alison,

            Robin Ticciati’s LSO Schumann cycle is very fine. He is a fine conductor in the making who I have much enjoyed seeing in concert several times. But I certainly wouldn't dismiss the Rattle set so easily. I heard the Berliner Philharmoniker play the Schumann cycle last year in Berlin and his recordings you dismiss are quite excellent in my view. It’s all down to personal taste. I'm confident however which set will prove outsell the other worldwide and it won't be Ticciati.
            your views are always respected in my house Stan.

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            • verismissimo
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 2957

              #66
              Actually, if it were me doing the choosing, I'd go for Ivan Fischer.

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              • Tony Halstead
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1717

                #67
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                Yes.

                And more than the LSO needs Mark Elder
                Hmm... you could at least afford him his hard-won 'title... just in case you didn't know, he is a 'Knight of the Realm' - so - SIR MARK ELDER

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #68
                  Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                  Actually, if it were me doing the choosing, I'd go for Ivan Fischer.
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • DublinJimbo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1222

                    #69
                    My money, and my hopes, rest on Dudamel. I will never forget his BPO concert back in 2013 that was broadcast live to cinemas. He programmed Stravinsky's suites for small orchestra and the fourth symphonies of Schubert and Beethoven. It was an astonishing experience, and marked (for me at least) a coming of age of a conductor who up until then I had felt lacked substance. The rapport between him and the orchestra was palpable, and the music making (especially in the Beethoven) was revelatory.

                    Since then, he's matured all the time and has developed into a force to be reckoned with and to be taken seriously. Most recently, his Mahler Four with his Venezuelan orchestra in the Philharmonie de Paris was absolutely superb. Once again, his rapport with the orchestra was amazing, and his ability to bring out the chamber quality of Mahler's writing brought the music to a level rarely heard (at one exquisite point, he encouraged his "supporting" players to listen to what their colleagues were doing, an encouragement which is rare indeed to see). Dudamel has a wise head on young shoulders and is maturing as an interpreter at an extraordinary pace.

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                    • pastoralguy
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7760

                      #70
                      Originally posted by DublinJimbo View Post
                      My money, and my hopes, rest on Dudamel. I will never forget his BPO concert back in 2013 that was broadcast live to cinemas. He programmed Stravinsky's suites for small orchestra and the fourth symphonies of Schubert and Beethoven. It was an astonishing experience, and marked (for me at least) a coming of age of a conductor who up until then I had felt lacked substance. The rapport between him and the orchestra was palpable, and the music making (especially in the Beethoven) was revelatory.

                      Since then, he's matured all the time and has developed into a force to be reckoned with and to be taken seriously. Most recently, his Mahler Four with his Venezuelan orchestra in the Philharmonie de Paris was absolutely superb. Once again, his rapport with the orchestra was amazing, and his ability to bring out the chamber quality of Mahler's writing brought the music to a level rarely heard (at one exquisite point, he encouraged his "supporting" players to listen to what their colleagues were doing, an encouragement which is rare indeed to see). Dudamel has a wise head on young shoulders and is maturing as an interpreter at an extraordinary pace.
                      Mrs. PG and I were at that concert at the Philharmonie and it was a tremendous experience. It was clear the players really enjoyed playing for him and the audience applause went on for some time after the players left the platform. I agree that he must be a serious contender.

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        #71
                        Not sure if it's pc even to mention the Sunday Times on these boards, but a double page spread in today's Culture section by Hugh Canning (regarding SR>LSO as highly likely). [Also full page article on ENO' current troubles by Bryan Appleyard.]

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                        • Stanfordian
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9314

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                          Not sure if it's pc even to mention the Sunday Times on these boards, but a double page spread in today's Culture section by Hugh Canning (regarding SR>LSO as highly likely). [Also full page article on ENO' current troubles by Bryan Appleyard.]
                          Hiya Richard,

                          I'm not sure how the mention of the Sunday Times is not PC. It's the Sunday newspaper we get each week together with the Telegraph and Times on Saturdays. The article by Hugh Canning was interesting. He certainly has his ear close to the ground but didn't really seem to know anything. He did mention Dudamel as a possibility for the Berlin Philharmoniker but no mention of Harding both of which are no strangers to the orchestra. Everyone is keeping tight lipped.

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            #73
                            Hi Stanfordian, see here -

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9314

                              #74
                              I've just heard on Classic FM news that Alan Gilbert has stepped down as conductor of the New York Philharmonic and they linked his name as a possible replacement for Simon Rattle at the Berliner Philharmoniker. The most lacklustre performance of any concert I have heard was Alan Gilbert conducting the touring New York Philharmonic at the Philharmonie, Munich in 2011 playing Beethoven’s Symphony No. 3 ‘Eroica’. It’s only one performance I know but it was truly poor.
                              Last edited by Stanfordian; 09-02-15, 15:50.

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                              • Petrushka
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12255

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                                I've just heard on Classic FM news that Alan Gilbert has stepped down as conductor of the New York Philharmonic and they linked his name as a possible replacement for Simon Rattle at the Berliner Philharmoniker. The most lacklustre performance of any concert I have heard was Alan Gilbert conducting the touring New York Philharmonic at the Philharmonie, Munich in 2011 playing Beethoven’s Symphony No. 3 ‘Eroica’. It’s only one performance I know but it was truly poor.
                                The idea of Alan Gilbert succeeding Simon Rattle is laughable. It's about as likely as me being twice struck by lightning on my way to collect the lottery triple rollover jackpot accompanied by Lord Lucan and Elvis Presley.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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