Simon Rattle and the new London concert hall...

[gradus]

Re the RFH and fiddling with its acoustic I thought that at one point the GLC installed some sort of acoustic treatment involving ceramic pots behind panelling in the hall, that were supposed to add warmth to the sound along the lines of the methods apparently used in ancient Greek auditoria. Anyone else remember this?

[MrGongGong]

Re the RFH and fiddling with its acoustic I thought that at one point the GLC installed some sort of acoustic treatment involving ceramic pots behind panelling in the hall, that were supposed to add warmth to the sound along the lines of the methods apparently used in ancient Greek auditoria. Anyone else remember this?

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=5262396

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022460X65900829

and so on


(wonderful thing, the Internet, especially coupled with the ability to type questions into a search engine)

[gradus]

Oh dear, sorry teacher.

[MrGongGong]

Oh dear, sorry teacher.

I think we have discussed this at length before.

[gradus]

I think we have discussed this at length before.

Please not another discussion after class, I'll tell my mum.

[MrGongGong]

Todays episode (but i'm dammed if i'm going to pay Dr Evil to read it so if someone would like to copy the text and paste it that would be most useful)

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4644957.ece

[Bryn]

Todays episode (but i'm dammed if i'm going to pay Dr Evil to read it so if someone would like to copy the text and paste it that would be most useful)

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinio...cle4644957.ece

I wish you had posted that earlier. I could have strolled down to Waitrose, spent £10 on essentials and got a free copy of the dreaded rag.

[Richard Tarleton]

Todays episode (but i'm dammed if i'm going to pay Dr Evil to read it so if someone would like to copy the text and paste it that would be most useful)

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinio...cle4644957.ece

Someone who doesn't share your moral scruples, you mean, and presumably you mean PM you as it would get the Forum into trouble to paste the article in full here. It was in yesterday's Times, and unfortunately I lit the fire with it last night. The gist as far as I can remember was that the money would be better spent on education, RFH not that bad etc. But really, just buy the damn paper. The moral posturing around the Times and Sunday Times on this forum gets right up my nose.

I'm going right off the new concert hall idea since reading about the iPads on every seat, above.

[teamsaint]

Richard, I'm not sure it is fair to call it moral posturing.

people can have honestly held beliefs, without necessarily being entirely consistent in their behaviour as consumers.(Not suggesting anything about gongers' behaviour as a consumer BTW).
In fact, it is probably(almost) unavoidable to behave in an inconsistent way in our complex consumer society.
Isn't it?

[Richard Tarleton]

Richard, I'm not sure it is fair to call it moral posturing.

people can have honestly held beliefs, without necessarily being entirely consistent in their behaviour as consumers.(Not suggesting anything about gongers' behaviour as a consumer BTW).
In fact, it is probably(almost) unavoidable to behave in an inconsistent way in our complex consumer society.
Isn't it?

Fair comment, ts. I think what irritated me was gongers wanting to know what the article said but not wanting to shell out for the privilege. The Times, ST and Sky do seem to prompt, erm, reflex responses from some quarters here. Me, I just like the best possible coverage of things that interest me

Best not to derail this thread.....

[teamsaint]

Fair comment, ts. I think what irritated me was gongers wanting to know what the article said but not wanting to shell out for the privilege. The Times, ST and Sky do seem to prompt, erm, reflex responses from some quarters here. Me, I just like the best possible coverage of things that interest me

Best not to derail this thread.....

and a fair comment from you too

(I wouldn't pay for the Times, but I do have SKY TV, although I have never paid more than half price for it, and I wouldn't.What a wonderfully sound moral position.)

[MrGongGong]

Fair comment, ts. I think what irritated me was gongers wanting to know what the article said but not wanting to shell out for the privilege. ..

Do you used a mounting block to get on your horse?


I wasn't being entirely serious and if I was desperate to read it I would pay.

But back onto Simon and the vanity hall of mirrors (fantasy or otherwise)

[aeolium]

I wouldn't be surprised if the new London concert hall is built, if only to conform to the law which states that if there is a choice between spending on some vast grandiose project the cost of which is greatly disproportionate to its benefit and spending the same money on many smaller projects benefiting far more people in the long run, it is always the grandiose project which is chosen. There are so many examples of the operation of this law: the appalling Millennium Dome, the London Olympics (and any Olympics for that matter), HS2, new devolved assembly buildings and - I regret to say - the new Birmingham Library (the old one was perfectly good).

There is nothing wrong with London's existing concert halls. If SR doesn't like them, let him stay away.

[MrGongGong]

Todays instalment

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/03/new-london-concert-hall-museum-london-blackfriars-simon-rattle

(some rather hilarious nonsense in the comments )

[teamsaint]

More here.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/classical/features/does-london-need-a-new-concert-hall-the-virtues-of-the-barbican-hall-have-been-overlooked-a6807871.html

Plus a review.
Plus I learned a new word.

Pellucid.
i'm going to use that one.

( apparently the barbican isn't terrible after all).