The 2014 Survey of Classical Music on Radio 3

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  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    The 2014 Survey of Classical Music on Radio 3

    Dear fellow boarders, please find below the results of my 6th survey of music on R3 in 2014. With grateful help from frenchie the results are displayed differently this year. If you click on the link below it takes you to the two spreadsheets, with the statistics by composer and the statistics by symphony. If there are any new comers that need an explanation how I do the survey, please refer to my earlier surveys. If you want to know how certain composers faired that didn't reach 50 pieces/chunks or other specific questions, I can do my best to answer your questions from the data on my home computer.



    General Observations
    The biggest winners of 2014 where non-classical pieces within normal classical slots/programmes and traditional music, up by about 1/5 (nearly 20%) on last year, when it also had a record year, and accounted for around 5% of the music played in the normal classical slots/programmes.
    The overall total of pieces played was up yet again, though not by a large amount but still works out that on average over 100 works/chunks are played every day which works out as the average length of between 11 and 12 minutes per piece/chunk on average.

    Anniversary Composers
    A very mixed bag, R Strauss didn’t do as well as I expected and certainly not as well as some well-known recent anniversary composers. Rameau and CPE Bach shared the spoils, though Rameau didn’t do as well as expected, but CPE Bach’s coverage was reasonable. Gluck however was for a significant anniversary composer, very poorly treated. His total was up, but not by that much and a fair proportion was made up of Orfeo e Euridice chunks. What went wrong, did they forget initially? I admit that Panufnik did somewhat better than I expected, but the treatment was somewhat patchy. Ropartz and Magnard were, as expected by the current regime, given minimal airtime. I wonder if a mistake was made with Sheppard, he started off having 4 times as much played, then suddenly it was reduced to the usual trickle, were they unsure if the anniversary should be in 2014 or 2015? Peter Maxwell Davies and Birtwistle both did reasonably considering the current regime, though there was far too much of the CFM favourite – Farewell to Stromness.
    Warhorses
    A generally good year for the R3 favourites, but especially Hungarian & Slavonic Dances and Schubert Impromptus all having well over 100 played each. The Slavonic Dances total seemed at one point as if it was going to approach 150, but suddenly slowed right up during the autumn, guilty conscience realising they had been overplayed or departure of RW? A considerable number of the Ravel warhorses had there best years since I began my survey, especially Le Tombeau (which also had a record year in 2013) and Alborado. Record years also for the Tchaikovsky ballets – The Sleeping Beauty and The Nutcracker, with the 3 ballets providing over 20% of the Tchaikovsky played. The Bartered Bride chunks and Vltava accounted for almost half of the Smetana broadcast and it was also a record year for chunks from Grieg’s Peer Gynt.

    Winners and Losers
    Outside of the anniversary composers the biggest winners of the year were probably Brahms and Ravel, both getting their highest totals since I began my survey, aided by the mini-fests. It was also a good year for Elgar and Dvorak. Three composers from much further down the normal rank order did well: Biber, Buxtehude and Part, did they also get the Part anniversary wrong? It was also a record year for Karl Jenkins, not many pieces, but a sign his music is increasing slowly but surely on R3 along with Whiteacre. Britten crashed to the lowest total so far, a more severe reaction than some composers get following their anniversary years. Handel was also down a fair bit as were Liszt, Telemann and surprisingly Faure. It is interesting to compare how well John Tavener did (although it would have also been his 70th Birthday year) compared with other composers who have died in recent years. There was the British music playlist, but to be honest British music outside of the main players, had a rather mixed year and didn't really benefit. American music had its worse year since my survey began, with even Barber’s music dropping significantly. Scandinavian music did slightly better, and composers from other areas, about the same as usual. The usual poor showing of a certain group of composers; such as Honegger, Hindemith, Martinu, Milhaud continued.

    The overall number of symphonies played complete was up, aided by the significant number of CPE Bach Symphonies played which had a knock on effect on his younger brother Johann Christian who also had more symphonic attentiojn than normal, and Brahms also had a very good year. The most played Symphony was the Prokofiev ‘Classical’ with 20 complete performances, combined with 16 chunks. Followed by Schubert’s 8th in its usual 2 movement form. Bruckner had a poor year symphony wise, part of a general decline in the number of his symphonies played complete on R3 in recent years. Surprisingly the two early symphonies of R Strauss where not played at all and even the Sinfonia Domestica was broadcast sparingly, surprising in an anniversary year.
    2015 is going to be interesting as to whether the change of regime will mark a change in direction. Next years’ results (if I am able to keep it going) are going to be very significant.
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30329

    #2
    Very many thanks to Suffy for doing another sterling job. Clicking on the file title and Save (not Open) will get you a download which is more labour-saving than trying to copy everything to the forum itself. Is .xlsx all right for people?
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30329

      #3
      Just read through Suffy's comments. Re the Slavonic Dances - I mentioned to RW last time we met that they had been given rather a lot of airtime - then c. 80 for the year. The repy was, "But not always the same one."
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Roehre

        #4
        Many thanks for all you work SC (and FF), very much appreciated
        Last edited by Guest; 07-01-15, 10:56.

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        • edashtav
          Full Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 3670

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Just read through Suffy's comments. Re the Slavonic Dances - I mentioned to RW last time we met that they had been given rather a lot of airtime - then c. 80 for the year. The repyl was, "But not always the same one."
          Yes, many thanks to Suffy and to Frenchie for her assistance, and, no doubt, encouragement. To answer the question: .xlsx formats were not immediately compatible with my old Office suite but the facile download of "Free Editor" ( < 2 mins) "sufficed".

          My word, the lists are shocking: look at the lowliness of Schoenberg and his (invisible?) school - William Glock will be turning in his grave.

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          • DracoM
            Host
            • Mar 2007
            • 12978

            #6
            Endorsed thanks.

            AAMOI, does Suffy include composers represented on Choral Evensong?

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            • Suffolkcoastal
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3290

              #7
              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              Endorsed thanks.

              AAMOI, does Suffy include composers represented on Choral Evensong?
              Yes and The Choir and Words & Music.

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              • mercia
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #8
                I would certainly prefer to hear four different Slavonic Dances played once to one Slavonic Dance played four times. My computer won't let me see the spreadsheets, I wouldn't expect them to go to that depth of analysis.
                Last edited by mercia; 07-01-15, 14:32.

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                • Suffolkcoastal
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3290

                  #9
                  The G Minor op46 no8 is played far more often than any of the Slavonic Dances as is the Hungarian Dance in G minor No 1.

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8792

                    #10
                    Many thanks sc and ff - as always excellent work.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30329

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mercia View Post
                      I would certainly prefer to hear four different Slavonic Dances played once to one Slavonic Dance played four times. My computer won't let me see the spreadsheets, I wouldn't expect them to go to that depth of analysis.
                      Mercs, would they be better as .xls format?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #12
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Mercs, would they be better as .xls format?
                        no I'm sure they're lovely as they are, its only because I haven't downloaded the relevant software to my computer that I can't see them

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          #13
                          many thanks for the exceedingly diligent efforts Suffolkcoastal .... it confirms one's apprehensions that the efforts of r3 to champion serious music are at best mediocre, or am i being too harsh?

                          btb i suspect R3 could not tell you what Suffolkcaostal has just shown ....
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30329

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                            btb i suspect R3 could not tell you what Suffolkcaostal has just shown ....
                            What I think is strange is that R3 claims that, unlike CFM, it does not have a 'playlist'. I think that might mean 'does not have a playlist like CFM's playlist' (i.e. it has a different, R3, playlist).

                            It strains credulity to think that it's a total accident that pieces can turn up with the regularity with which they do unless SOMEONE SOMEWHERE has a list of 'useful' pieces that can be called up regularly as being 'suitable' - especially for Breakfast. Though one point occurs: with so much 'live music' coming from concerts, many warhorses will turn up because concert programmers programme them.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • aeolium
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3992

                              #15
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              It strains credulity to think that it's a total accident that pieces can turn up with the regularity with which they do unless SOMEONE SOMEWHERE has a list of 'useful' pieces that can be called up regularly as being 'suitable' - especially for Breakfast. Though one point occurs: with so much 'live music' coming from concerts, many warhorses will turn up because concert programmers programme them.
                              Yes, but with many concerts being deferred broadcasts, it is not beyond the wit of programme schedulers to ensure that broadcasts of the same concert work do not occur too close to each other. It is astonishing that there is not such a thing as a playlist checker to ensure that the same works do not occur again and again in close proximity (except for scheduled programme repeats like CotW and the Wigmore Hall lunchtime concert) - surely there used to be something like this?

                              I add my thanks and praise for Suffolkcoastal's sterling efforts in compiling these statistics.

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