Kyung Wha Chung and coughing fit

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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30329

    #16
    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    Chaz was wrong about most things.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Mary Chambers
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1963

      #17
      I think it would have been all right for an audience member to say something to the parents, but because of the public nature of something said from the platform I think Kyung Wha Chung was wrong to say it.

      When I was about nine I was overcome with excitement at my first visit to the ROH, and whispered something to my mother. An audience member in front turned round and (politely) asked my mother to stop me talking, which he had every right to do. I knew that at the time - it was by no means my first visit to the a theatre, and I knew I shouldn't have spoken. However, if it had been a remark the whole audience could hear, the humiliation would have been so extreme I doubt if I'd have set foot in a theatre or concert hall ever again.

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #18
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        What about 'getting at' the parents?

        A few years back C Hazelwood raged because his wife was taken to task for a kind of whispered running commentary to her small son during a concert. At the end two concert-goers complained to her that this had ruined their concert. Who was right and who wrong?
        Depends on what and where the concert was.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #19
          Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
          I think it is unprofessional to get at a child in public.
          Jason was an 8 year-old boy in a Sheffield department store with his mother. He decided the 3-piece suites looked like a good place to play and jumped up and down on a very expensive sofa.
          "Mummy, look! Isn't this fun?"

          "Oh Jason, you're such a bore," said his mother in very posh voice.

          "Well, if you ask me, he just being bloody obnoxious", the store manager commented.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #20
            Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
            I think it would have been all right for an audience member to say something to the parents, but because of the public nature of something said from the platform I think Kyung Wha Chung was wrong to say it.

            When I was about nine I was overcome with excitement at my first visit to the ROH, and whispered something to my mother. An audience member in front turned round and (politely) asked my mother to stop me talking, which he had every right to do. I knew that at the time - it was by no means my first visit to the a theatre, and I knew I shouldn't have spoken. However, if it had been a remark the whole audience could hear, the humiliation would have been so extreme I doubt if I'd have set foot in a theatre or concert hall ever again.
            I think if the parent had been as sensitive or a genuine music lover as you, Mary, she (mother, was it?) wouldn’t have taken a coughing child to the concert in the first place, or at least would have taken the child out from the hall when she started coughing so badly. I imagine the poor child was bored out of her mind having been dragged out to something she had no interest in just because her mother had an idea.

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            • Mary Chambers
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1963

              #21
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              Jason was an 8 year-old boy in a Sheffield department store with his mother. He decided the 3-piece suites looked like a good place to play and jumped up and down on a very expensive sofa.
              "Mummy, look! Isn't this fun?"

              "Oh Jason, you're such a bore," said his mother in very posh voice.

              "Well, if you ask me, he just being bloody obnoxious", the store manager commented.
              That's different! It would be interesting to know what happened next.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #22
                Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                I imagine the poor child was bored out of her mind having been dragged out to something she had no interest in just because her mother had an idea.
                I know what you mean
                Classical music is boring isn't it?

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12260

                  #23
                  This should not have been a problem for the performer to have dealt with. Where are front of house people when you need them?

                  I was at a BPO/Rattle Prom a couple of seasons ago when the child sitting next to me got extremely fidgety and started kicking etc. I'd paid top whack for this concert, travelled 250 miles, had hotel bills added on and all for a ruined concert. Parents will know whether or not their children can cope with a couple of hours of orchestral music so it is extremely selfish and inconsiderate of them to inflict this sort of thing on the rest of the audience.

                  At a Leipzig Gewandhaus/Kurt Masur Prom a good few seasons back I was dismayed to find myself seated next to a boy and girl aged about 9 or 10 with their mother. I needn't have worried: they were both a credit to their mother sitting quietly and listening enthralled to a demanding programme of Schubert 8 and Bruckner 4. The Telegraph reviewer must have been sitting near me as he mentioned them in his review of the concert.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Jason was an 8 year-old boy in a Sheffield department store with his mother. He decided the 3-piece suites looked like a good place to play and jumped up and down on a very expensive sofa.
                    "Mummy, look! Isn't this fun?"

                    "Oh Jason, you're such a bore," said his mother in very posh voice.

                    "Well, if you ask me, he just being bloody obnoxious", the store manager commented.


                    Parent of bloody obnoxious kid to Basil Fawlty:

                    "He's very highly strung"
                    "Yes; he should be."
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26540

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                      Parent of bloody obnoxious kid to Basil Fawlty:

                      "He's very highly strung"
                      "Yes; he should be."


                      Obnoxious kid: [to Basil] Haven't you got any PROPER chips?

                      Basil Fawlty: Well, these ARE proper French-fried potatoes.

                      Obnoxious kid: They're the wrong SHAPE.

                      Basil Fawlty: Oh, dear... What shape you usually have? Mickey Mouse shape? Smarties shape? Amphibious landing-craft shape? Poke-in-the-eye shape?
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Mary Chambers
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1963

                          #27
                          I often see children at concerts, and I don't think I have never seen a badly-behaved one. I wouldn't count the occasional cough or wriggle as bad behaviour. Concerts have been spoiled by adults more often than by children, though again not often.

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25210

                            #28
                            It could be Very tricky when child prodigy performers start misbehaving.
                            Last edited by teamsaint; 05-12-14, 07:59.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • amateur51

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                              Parent of bloody obnoxious kid to Basil Fawlty:

                              "He's very highly strung"
                              "Yes; he should be."

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                              • amateur51

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                                Obnoxious kid: [to Basil] Haven't you got any PROPER chips?

                                Basil Fawlty: Well, these ARE proper French-fried potatoes.

                                Obnoxious kid: They're the wrong SHAPE.

                                Basil Fawlty: Oh, dear... What shape you usually have? Mickey Mouse shape? Smarties shape? Amphibious landing-craft shape? Poke-in-the-eye shape?

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