Learning a violin part

[gradus]

I wonder if anyone has come across recordings of violin parts of orchestral scores to help a player to master their part more quickly? I can't find anything on the Net but perhaps I'm not looking in the right place?

[Tony Halstead]

I wonder if anyone has come across recordings of violin parts of orchestral scores to help a player to master their part more quickly? I can't find anything on the Net but perhaps I'm not looking in the right place?

Do you mean SOUND/AUDIO recordings if so, I doubt that they exist...!
Or maybe IMAGES of the printed music?
if the latter, there are many available on

http://imslp.org/

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yes, I thought of IMSLP, too - but the "recordings of violin parts" in gradus' post suggested that the violinist wishes to hear what the part sounds like. I had a shuffty on youtube, but nothing doing there and I can't think who/where else such material might be found.

[Pianorak]

Maybe this is what you are looking for:http://www.forsyths.co.uk/music/302-...ed-instruments

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Maybe this is what you are looking for:http://www.forsyths.co.uk/music/302-...ed-instruments

Could be ... but I thought that MusicMinusOne did the opposite of what gradus wants - gives the piano/orchestral part for a player to "kareoke" the missing solo; as I understand it, what is wanted is a recording of the first (or second) violin part on its own without the confusion of trying to learn what it sounds like whilst the rest of the orchestra is playing.

I'm not sure such recordings exist - there may be a business opportunity for someone here: "Music Minus Eighty"?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Music Minus One was my first reaction, but as Ferney says, it isn't really the answer here. I could be really mean and suggest reading the music carefully, counting throughout and observing all dynamics, tempo changes and articulation. I have many pupils who complain they can't play a piece because they "don't know how it goes". It's all there on the page - well, nearly all.

But as Gradus suggests, hearing a recording does speed things up.

[gradus]

Many thanks for the prompt replies. 'Music minus 80' is exactly what I'm looking for but as I thought it doesn't exist. It's really to speed learning by copying.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Hmm. Now I've got it into my head to record all the oboe orchestral excerpts in the three Boosey & Hawkes books edited by Evelyn Rothwell (Barbirolli).

Well, it's a start.

[gradus]

I think there could be a market for recordings of this kind as countless amatuers struggle to 'get' their parts.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

In the meantime, the best suggestion I can think of is to copy the part onto SIBELIUS (or similar Music notation software) - making sure that all dynamic and tempo indications are included - and play that back. It's far from ideal, but will be adequate for the requirements here. (If the violinist is the one who so copies, it will help them learn the part, too!)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

In the meantime, the best suggestion I can think of is to copy the part onto SIBELIUS (or similar Music notation software) - making sure that all dynamic and tempo indications are included - and play that back. It's far from ideal, but will be adequate for the requirements here. (If the violinist is the one who so copies, it will help them learn the part, too!)

I've done that before now to help pupils. But the electronic sound can be so dire...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yes - Piano sound is acceptable, and pizzicato strings, but anything else ... !

[pastoralguy]

Have a look on YouTube. The Youtube symphony orchestra has master classes with top class orchestral players making suggestions about difficult passages. (Don't forget, you only have to practice the exposed bits - not the bits where the brass are going hell for leather...

[gradus]

Many thanks for the further suggestions which I'll pass on to the player.