"Ten Pieces"

[doversoul1]

Well, I know lots of other reasons why schools do music projects.

Well, of course you'd say that. Anyway, I’ve said my bit. So, I’ll shut up now.

[MrGongGong]

Well, of course you'd say that. Anyway, I’ve said my bit. So, I’ll shut up now.

I would because I actually KNOW something about it

Please don't shut up
why not make up some more things ?

How about this

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural-432hz.html

[MrGongGong]

Some might even do it because someone in charge has grasped just how much it contributes to a child's all round intellectual development.

Indeed

[Old Grumpy]

I was heartened by today's comments from the children of Liversedge as broadcast on Breakfast. These were in response to Mussorgsky's Night on a Bare Mountain. The best was: "Excellent - much better than the normal music we have".

OG

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The best was: "Excellent - much better than the normal music we have".

[french frank]

I was heartened by today's comments from the children of Liversedge as broadcast on Breakfast. These were in response to Mussorgsky's Night on a Bare Mountain. The best was: "Excellent - much better than the normal music we have".

OG

I'd been thinking that the final 'verdict' comes from the children - though picking out a few enthusiastic comments doesn't mean a lot. What do the CBBC viewers make of it? Most of that audience are of the target age group.

[doversoul1]

"Excellent - much better than the normal music we have".

OG

Is this what we, who value classical (serious, art, call it what you like) music, want to hear from children? I hope the child meant ‘it was much better than I thought it would be’, or ‘I enjoyed it as much as the normal music we listen to’.

Whose emphasis is it by the way (re: normal)?

Also, is it appropriate for Breakfast to include something akin to a satisfied customer’s voice (even if it is genuine) as if it is advertising its own programmes?

[french frank]

Is this what we, who value classical (serious, art, call it what you like) music, want to hear from children? I hope the child meant ‘it was much better than I thought it would be’, or ‘I enjoyed it as much as the normal music we listen to’.

Why not? Saying ‘it was much better than I thought it would be’ would presuppose that the child had already formed some concept of 'classical music'. Half the problem is that they seldom, if ever, hear it - in this sense of 'classical music', meaning part of the standard repertoire that we 'who value classical (serious, art, call it what you like) music' mean (Grieg, Mussorgsky &c).

Also, is it appropriate for Breakfast to include something akin to a satisfied customer’s voice (even if it is genuine) as if it is advertising its own programmes?

Many would think not - but this is today's Radio 3, and today's BBC, most of the time.

[Old Grumpy]

Whose emphasis is it by the way (re: normal)?

The emphasis is entirely mine - I did think of putting "(my italics)", but considered it unecessary as the original comment was spoken, not written. If you want to know you can listen on iplayer at approx 1 hour 10 minutes I would estimate.

OG

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I was heartened by today's comments from the children of Liversedge as broadcast on Breakfast. These were in response to Mussorgsky's Night on a Bare Mountain. The best was: "Excellent - much better than the normal music we have".

OG

But as others have said, it's easy pick out the comments we like to hear. People do it all the time to justify themselves.

I've just received a circular e-mail asking for ideas for ways our music service can support the project. My instant response was that we should make it possible for the children to hear the music played live.

[french frank]

Meanwhile, criticise the project if you like, but I'm far more gloomy about the BBC's 'God Only Knows' crossover video - I'm sure many of those who are watching, sharing, liking and declaring brilliant believe it IS classical music - and it's really good ...

[Nick Armstrong]

Meanwhile, criticise the project if you like, but I'm far more gloomy about the BBC's 'God Only Knows' crossover video - I'm sure many of those who are watching, sharing, liking and declaring brilliant believe it IS classical music - and it's really good ...

Oh blimey... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqLTe...ature=youtu.be Are we paying for this stuff?

Is this why some people were discussing the Beach Boys somewhere else here? Didn't follow, and am probably coming shamefully late to this particular party...

[gradus]

I thought it was made to raise money for Children in Need? If it gets people to listen to any music inc classical, so much the better.

[french frank]

I thought it was made to raise money for Children in Need? If it gets people to listen to any music inc classical, so much the better.

It wasn't a criticism - just saying young people might confuse it with 'classical music' because there's an orchestra with Nicola Benedetti ...

[doversoul1]

Why not? Saying ‘it was much better than I thought it would be’ would presuppose that the child had already formed some concept of 'classical music'. Half the problem is that they seldom, if ever, hear it - in this sense of 'classical music', meaning part of the standard repertoire that we 'who value classical (serious, art, call it what you like) music' mean (Grieg, Mussorgsky &c).

Not necessarily. I guess most children simply have no particular opinions about classical music but once they are ready to hear it, they usually (or you could say as a natural mental reaction) form some sort of expectation, which may not be decisively negative but more like ‘Is it going to be difficult? or ‘I wonder if I like it’ or even ‘I wonder what it sounds like’ sort of feelings. Then they express their thoughts afterword on the basis of what they thought before they listened to it*.

I know I am reading too much into it but to have a child declare ‘much better than the normal music we have’ seems to me to be walking straight into the Anti-elitist trap.

I think more than half the problem when the question of children and classical music is concerned is that children being not interested in it tends to be short circuited to their disliking the music. Two are very different things.

[ed.] *what I am trying to say is that if there is any element of comparison, it is likely to be this.