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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #61
    Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
    Your picture shows a group of Bright Young Things. What can we deduce from it? Well, nothing really except that they are young and seem to be enjoying themselves (despite the rain) although I have to say brown shoes with black dinner jacket is not on really. Perhaps he ain't been brung up proper?
    See foot, take aim, FIRE

    I think you live in a very different world my friend

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #62
      Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
      Glyndebourne only suggests what you can wear. .

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #63
        Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
        (god, how I hate that word - so Woosterish).
        My cat's called Wooster.

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        • Bax-of-Delights
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 745

          #64
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          See foot, take aim, FIRE

          I think you live in a very different world my friend
          Sarcasm is very difficult to spot isn't it, Mr GG?

          And don't presume anything about my world, please. You have no idea.
          O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30329

            #65
            B-o-D

            (And trying to relate this to the OP), I'm not objecting to or criticising Glyndebourne's summer season, or anyone who goes and enjoys it - for whatever reason. My whole point is Live and Let Live (and I would be very appreciative of GTO if it came this way ). What I was regretting was that the fact that that Glyndebourne image was lodged in many people's consciousness as representative of opera, like the top ticket prices at ROH. And I have been to ROH (and many other opera houses) in my usual garb and no one turned a hair and they weren't all dressed up to the nines.

            But getting back, that image of opera also brushes off on classical music as a whole: it's for the wealthy, not for people like me. And that's the viewpoint that children are brought up with by whoever - parents, teachers, friends, journalists who themselves aren't into classical music. In that climate, of course 'children don't like classical music'.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              #66
              But won't some of the youngsters we're talking about spend thousands on dressing up for their own weddings when the time comes?

              And here we have Ladies' Day at Aintree this year:

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              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #67
                Originally posted by Bax-of-Delights View Post
                Sarcasm is very difficult to spot isn't it, Mr GG?

                And don't presume anything about my world, please. You have no idea.
                Ok, no offence meant

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #68
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post

                  But getting back, that image of opera also brushes off on classical music as a whole: it's for the wealthy, not for people like me. And that's the viewpoint that children are brought up with by whoever - parents, teachers, friends, journalists who themselves aren't into classical music. In that climate, of course 'children don't like classical music'.
                  Exactly

                  and (again) "we" are atypical

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30329

                    #69
                    And my point about GTO: as you know, I live in Bristol



                    We have WNO once a year, and Ellen Kent ...
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • doversoul1
                      Ex Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7132

                      #70
                      Talking about teaching children Shakespeare
                      Introducing A Midsummer Night’s Dream at Key Stage 2 (7-11 year-olds)

                      Outcomes
                      By the end of these sessions, students will have:
                      • an understanding of a section of text from A Midsummer Night’s
                      Dream
                      • written a list of adjectives which describe Titania or Oberon
                      • justified their description by choosing appropriate quotations
                      from the text
                      • written a character reference for Titania or Oberon for a job
                      application.

                      Admittedly, this is rather old (2002) but I think the last item is particularly creative. Ten Pieces project seems to be coming from the similar thinking*. This way, teachers can assess each child’s achievement objectively using the marking scheme. Never mind the actual play or the music. That’s Literature and Classical Music done (I don’t blame teachers).

                      *Phase Two

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #71
                        I think you miss the point dover

                        I don't think there's anything in this that is marked
                        had a marking scheme
                        or any other such thing

                        I might have missed the "marking scheme" could you send a link to it ?

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #72
                          Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                          , teachers can assess each child’s achievement objectively using the marking scheme. Never mind the actual play or the music. That’s Literature and Classical Music done (I don’t blame teachers)
                          Whoah there, dovers! "understanding a section of text", "justified their description by choosing appropriate quotations from the text" - in what way is this "never mind(ing) the actual play"?
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • doversoul1
                            Ex Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7132

                            #73
                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            I think you miss the point dover

                            I don't think there's anything in this that is marked
                            had a marking scheme
                            or any other such thing

                            I might have missed the "marking scheme" could you send a link to it ?
                            The marking scheme for Ten Pieces is not published (for general public to access) as far as I know but why else other than to mark / assess children do schools these days spend time on any projects? I wish they did*. The contents of Phase Two are a list of standard classroom activates, are they not?

                            *I do know some schools/head teachers do but that tends to be their own things. Even that is usually linked to some areas of assessment.

                            ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            You can ‘dismiss’ it as my prejudice but there you are. It’s just me. I don’t like / believe in feeding children with bits.
                            (Thank you for the proofreading : never mind(ing)

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #74
                              Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                              The marking scheme for Ten Pieces is not published
                              That's probably because it doesn't exist


                              but why else other than to mark / assess children do schools these days spend time on any projects?
                              Well, I know lots of other reasons why schools do music projects.

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #75
                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                ... Well, I know lots of other reasons why schools do music projects.
                                Some might even do it because someone in charge has grasped just how much it contributes to a child's all round intellectual development.

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