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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
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    Conductors who avoid certain composers....

    Sitting in the RAH on Wednesday evening watching Sakari Oramo, I was recalling the brief dicussion in the Proms Extra programme on Saturday ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...xtra-episode-3 - starts around 38'50" or so ) about Oramo's view of Mozart. In particular he would never choose to conduct Mozart's Requiem.

    Then, listening to VW's Job, I wondered what Colin Davis would have made of it... At the time, I thought he hadn't touched VW's music, but I find there are CDs of the 4th and the 6th (and no doubt he performed others with the LSO).

    Abbado did Prokofiev (and everthing else) so well - but did he ever conduct any Shostakovich?

    No conductor can do everything, of course.

    But is anyone aware of any other antipathies expressed by conductors, for the work of composers whose work might normally be regarded as 'core repertoire' ?
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

  • EnemyoftheStoat
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1135

    #2
    Rattle didn't touch (couldn't conduct?) Brahms for a long time, and Tchaikovsky not until very recently.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20573

      #3
      Boulez regards his refusal to have anything to do with Tchaikovsky as a badge of honour. It isn't.

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26572

        #4
        Oh yes I'd forgotten about that!
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Madame Suggia
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 189

          #5
          I wonder what Haitink would do with Sibelius.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Boulez regards his refusal to have anything to do with Tchaikovsky as a badge of honour. It isn't.
            He's not got much of record with Brahms, either. Though there is a recording of a performance of the German Requiem with him at the helm.

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            • Belgrove
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              • Nov 2010
              • 948

              #7
              Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
              I wonder what Haitink would do with Sibelius.
              You pipped me to the post Madame Suggia. Apparently he conducted the Halle in No 2 in 1965 and has conducted the violin concerto with Joshua Bell in Boston.

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              • Stanfordian
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 9322

                #8
                From memory:
                Riccardo Chailly doesn't conduct Elgar with the Gewandhausorchester Leipzig.
                I'm not aware of Sir Simon Rattle conducting Vaughan Williams symphonies.
                Sir Mark Elder won't conduct Malcolm Arnold.
                Karajan did conduct all the Sibelius symphomies except No. 3.
                Last edited by Stanfordian; 15-08-14, 16:13.

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                • PJPJ
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1461

                  #9
                  Has Haitink conducted VW's Job?

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #10
                    Through my long ago youth Boult, Sargent, Beecham etc conducted all I knew.

                    There were gaps in my listening for years. Still are.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26572

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                      Has Haitink conducted VW's Job?
                      Not on record, afaics. Maybe in concert, but not that i know of.

                      Checking the answer has cost me 17 quid... because I found this I didn't know existed and had to have it !!!!

                      Sir Adrian Boult conducts Vaughan Williams. ica classics: ICAD5037. Buy DVD Video online. London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult









                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • amateur51

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                        Rattle didn't touch (couldn't conduct?) Brahms for a long time, and Tchaikovsky not until very recently.
                        Somewhere I have a cassette tape of a broadcast of Rattle/BBCSSO playing Brahms symphiony no 1 in the 1980s.

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                        • Richard Tarleton

                          #13
                          I've read JEG (who conducts all sorts of things these days) being very rude about Bruckner symphonies in an interview (comparing them unfavourably to Brahms ), tho' he has done lots of the motets etc....

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Apart from Haitink and Maazel, is there any conductor who has performed/recorded cycles of both Bruckner and Mahler Symphonies? Wand & Tintner? No Mahler. Kubelik? Complete cycles of Beethoben, Schumann (twice), Brahms and Mahler, but Bruckner? Bernstein? Just Bruckner #9 (twice). Jochum? Just Das Lied von der Erde as far as I know. Karajan? A complete Bruckner set, but only 4, 5, 6 & 9 (and the orchestral songs) of Mahler. Solti the other way round - a complete Mahler cycle (some twice) but only Symphonies (again, IIRC) 1, 4, 7 & 8 of the Bruckners. Abbado? Similar to Solti. Barenboim? Two Bruckner cycles, but only Mahler's Fifth. Rattle? A complete Mahler cycle, but has only (afaik) performed the 7th & 9th of Bruckner. Granted, he's recorded more of the 9th than any of the other names mentioned so far, but ...

                            Curious.
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                            • PJPJ
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1461

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              Not on record, afaics. Maybe in concert, but not that i know of.

                              Checking the answer has cost me 17 quid... because I found this I didn't know existed and had to have it !!!!

                              Sir Adrian Boult conducts Vaughan Williams. ica classics: ICAD5037. Buy DVD Video online. London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult









                              You won't regret it - it's wonderful....

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