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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
    You won't regret it - it's wonderful....
    All a cunning plan, eh PJ ?!
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • PJPJ
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1461

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Apart from Haitink and Maazel, is there any conductor who has performed/recorded cycles of both Bruckner and Mahler Symphonies? Wand & Tintner? No Mahler. Kubelik? Complete cycles of Beethoben, Schumann (twice), Brahms and Mahler, but Bruckner? Bernstein? Just Bruckner #9 (twice). Jochum? Just Das Lied von der Erde as far as I know. Karajan? A complete Bruckner set, but only 4, 5, 6 & 9 (and the orchestral songs) of Mahler. Solti the other way round - a complete Mahler cycle (some twice) but only Symphonies (again, IIRC) 1, 4, 7 & 8 of the Bruckners. Abbado? Similar to Solti. Barenboim? Two Bruckner cycles, but only Mahler's Fifth. Rattle? A complete Mahler cycle, but has only (afaik) performed the 7th & 9th of Bruckner. Granted, he's recorded more of the 9th than any of the other names mentioned so far, but ...

      Curious.
      Solti recorded a Bruckner cycle.



      including Der Nullte.

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12309

        #18
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Apart from Haitink and Maazel, is there any conductor who has performed/recorded cycles of both Bruckner and Mahler Symphonies? Wand & Tintner? No Mahler. Kubelik? Complete cycles of Beethoben, Schumann (twice), Brahms and Mahler, but Bruckner? iBernstein? Just Bruckner #9 (twice). Jochum? Just Das Lied von der Erde as far as I know. Karajan? A complete Bruckner set, but only 4, 5, 6 & 9 (and the orchestral songs) of Mahler. Solti the other way round - a complete Mahler cycle (some twice) but only Symphonies (again, IIRC) 1, 4, 7 & 8 of the Bruckners. Abbado? Similar to Solti. Barenboim? Two Bruckner cycles, but only Mahler's Fifth. Rattle? A complete Mahler cycle, but has only (afaik) performed the 7th & 9th of Bruckner. Granted, he's recorded more of the 9th than any of the other names mentioned so far, but ...

        Curious.
        Solti recorded all of Bruckner too and some of them twice.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • amateur51

          #19
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Apart from Haitink and Maazel, is there any conductor who has performed/recorded cycles of both Bruckner and Mahler Symphonies? Wand & Tintner? No Mahler. Kubelik? Complete cycles of Beethoben, Schumann (twice), Brahms and Mahler, but Bruckner? Bernstein? Just Bruckner #9 (twice). Jochum? Just Das Lied von der Erde as far as I know. Karajan? A complete Bruckner set, but only 4, 5, 6 & 9 (and the orchestral songs) of Mahler. Solti the other way round - a complete Mahler cycle (some twice) but only Symphonies (again, IIRC) 1, 4, 7 & 8 of the Bruckners. Abbado? Similar to Solti. Barenboim? Two Bruckner cycles, but only Mahler's Fifth. Rattle? A complete Mahler cycle, but has only (afaik) performed the 7th & 9th of Bruckner. Granted, he's recorded more of the 9th than any of the other names mentioned so far, but ...

          Curious.
          i think Rattle's recorded Bruckner symphony no.4 too.

          Any ferney? - you're in-box is full up ahem! Let's us know when it ain't eh?

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Thanks for the Solti Bruckner pointers. Don't know how ... well, y'know.

            (And ami is quite correct about the Bruckner Fourth. )
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            • pastoralguy
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7799

              #21
              Most conductors seem to avoid George Lloyd...

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #22
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Any ferney? - you're in-box is full up ahem! Let's us know when it ain't eh?
                Space available now - book early whilst stocks last.
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                • amateur51

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Space available now - book early whilst stocks last.
                  Triffic news

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                  • Richard Tarleton

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    Solti recorded all of Bruckner too and some of them twice.
                    Yes the LP of his Chicago SO 7th had a side break in the Adagio

                    His VSO 7th was coupled with the S. Idyll that we were discussing earlier....Saw him do it with LPO in RFH.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22182

                      #25
                      Abbado seemed to avoid British music - rather rude really as the one time Chief of the LSO!

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12309

                        #26
                        Mention has been made of Haitink and Sibelius. I recall him saying somewhere that Scandinavian music does nothing for him. The Nielsen 5 was on one of his Prom programmes at one time but was dropped in favour of, I think, the Tchaikovsky 5.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6468

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          Mention has been made of Haitink and Sibelius. I recall him saying somewhere that Scandinavian music does nothing for him. The Nielsen 5 was on one of his Prom programmes at one time but was dropped in favour of, I think, the Tchaikovsky 5.
                          Dvorak 8

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6468

                            #28
                            Count Chailly in the Mahler/Bruckner gang.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              Count Chailly in the Mahler/Bruckner gang.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • Alison
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6468

                                #30
                                Interesting observation from Ferney especially when we think everyone is recording these symphonies by the bucket load.

                                Barenboim has also set down M7 and M9.

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