Wobbly Women Spoil My Music

[Ockeghem's Razor]

As a member of the IWW I know a few Wobbly women. Never heard any vibrato on 'A las Barricadas!'

[Old Grumpy]

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Nothing to do with castrati I hope

[Ockeghem's Razor]

No, all anarcha-feminists, as far as i know

[Nick Armstrong]

Indeed. so injurious to health do I find it, we have a household rule never to allow warbling before 10am anywhere in the house.

A most commendable rule which I normally follow to the letter - and beyond 10am indeed

There are certain exceptions though. Currently listening (having switched off the Clemmie-Petroc gush-fest with a profanity) to the Richard Strauss song segment from CD Review a couple of weeks back - Christiane Karg (a name totally new to me) with Malcolm Martineau: lovely warm yet unwobbly soprano. Gott sei dank.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

No, all anarcha-feminists, as far as i know

You've made me wonder if the motivations of SCUM have been misunderstood all these years; they're just very keen on 18th Century Opera?

[Richard Tarleton]

There are certain exceptions though.

Barbara Bonney (haven't heard much from her recently) is another unwobbly soprano who can sing anything from Dowland to Strauss, beautifully. RC's playing an arrangement of Byrd's Though Amaryllis Dance in Green this morning (while I was unpacking the shopping ) reminded me it was time I played her Fairest Isle disc again.....

[cloughie]

Barbara Bonney (haven't heard much from her recently) is another unwobbly soprano who can sing anything from Dowland to Strauss, beautifully. RC's playing an arrangement of Byrd's Though Amaryllis Dance in Green this morning (while I was unpacking the shopping ) reminded me it was time I played her Fairest Isle disc again.....

She makes a Bonn(e)y sound. I know there are those on these boards who are not BB fans but I love her R Strauss - particularly 4LS with very clever piano accompaniment by Malcolm Martineau. Also her contribution to the trio in C Kleiber's Rosenkavalier DVD is lovely!

Just notice on the Alison resurrected Mahler 4 thread ts comments favourably on BB's voice in movt 4 - fully agree!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Some singers claim that vocal vibrato is a natural part of breath using the diaphragm, rather than a learnt technique as is string vibrato. Yet many singers can be seen wobbling their chins as they sing. If that isn't a "cultured vibrato", I don't know what is. Indeed Charlotte Church sang in this way when she was only 14. I know the vibrato I use when playing the oboe is very much learnt, and can very easily be switched on and off.

[Nick Armstrong]

She makes a Bonn(e)y sound. I know there are those on these boards who are not BB fans but I love her R Strauss - particularly 4LS with very clever piano accompaniment by Malcolm Martineau. Also her contribution to the trio in C Kleiber's Rosenkavalier DVD is lovely!

Just notice on the Alison resurrected Mahler 4 thread ts comments favourably on BB's voice in movt 4 - fully agree!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Did castrati have vibrato?

Decide for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slhhg8sI6Ds

[Ockeghem's Razor]

You've made me wonder if the motivations of SCUM have been misunderstood all these years; they're just very keen on 18th Century Opera?

[gamba]

Some singers claim that vocal vibrato is a natural part of breath using the diaphragm, rather than a learnt technique as is string vibrato. Yet many singers can be seen wobbling their chins as they sing. If that isn't a "cultured vibrato", I don't know what is. Indeed Charlotte Church sang in this way when she was only 14. I know the vibrato I use when playing the oboe is very much learnt, and can very easily be switched on and off.

Also, how much vibrato for a string player. In my case, the cello. Excessive use occurs with some players. The reason for my love for the bass viol is the almost total absence of vibrato, due to the frets of course, but also with the greater ability for double & treble stopping of gut strings & an almost flat bridge to produce truly lush chords. Alas, my fingers simply will not comply with such complicated movement. ( or is it the brain ? ).