British composers of the 18th century

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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #16
    William Croft (d.1727) He was the guy who wrote ceremonial music for important occasions (thanksgivngs after famous battles, Feasts of the Sons of the Clergy, Royal Funerals, etc) before Handel arrived and did it better. However it is my firm belief that Handel, in adopting the English ceremonial style, used mainly Croft's music as his model. If anyone wants to try Croft's secular music (harpsichord suites and violin sonatas) there's:

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      #17
      London Baroque has recorded many interesting CDs, like this one:
      English Music of the 18th Century

      plus:

      The Trio Sonata in 18th-Century England. BIS: BISCD1765. Buy CD or download online. London Baroque: Ingrid Seifert & Richard Gwilt (violin), Charles Medlam (violoncello) & Steven Devine (harpsichord)

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      • Ferretfancy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #18
        No mention yet of Charles Avison (1710-1770) who was a composer and author on music, organist at Newcastle Cathedral. I've got a nice LP of a selection of his concerti grossi played by the Bournemouth Sinfonietta. Apparently he wrote more than fifty of them, as well as numerous sonatas and string quartets.
        The music is very reminiscent of Corelli, and in fact Avison was a pupil of Geminiani, it's very attractive.

        John Stanley (1713-1786) was a pupil of Boyce, and was blind since birth. There's a delightful set of organ concertos on the CRD label ( if not deleted) played and directed by Gerald Gifford on the organ of Hexham Abbey with the Northern Sinfonia. This brings memories for me of visits to
        this fascinating church, and Cragside is only a short drive away.

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11707

          #19
          Avison prompted the thread FF see OP

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          • Ferretfancy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3487

            #20
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Avison prompted the thread FF see OP
            I'm sorry, I didn't notice his name in your OP, I'm glad you enjoy the Naxos discs. My old LP uses modern instruments and is probably a bit old fashioned, so I'll look out for the Naxos on your recommendation.

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11707

              #21
              Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
              I'm sorry, I didn't notice his name in your OP, I'm glad you enjoy the Naxos discs. My old LP uses modern instruments and is probably a bit old fashioned, so I'll look out for the Naxos on your recommendation.
              I have the 2CD set of the Op3 and Op 4 concertos . They are charming and interesting pieces , delightfully played by the Avison Ensemble and no scrawny strings to be found !

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              • John Wright
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 705

                #22
                I haven't listened for quite some time but I have an excellent CD of very interesting music by Capel Bond (1730-1790) and got quite attached to his music, which is skilfully written and quite individual, when I found out he was buried just two miles away in the Coventry suburb of Binley. His Six Concertos in Seven Parts has been recorded by Roy Goodman and The Parley of Instruments on Hyperion Records, and choral work has been performed in this city.

                Read about Capel Bond here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capel_Bond

                and listen http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA66467

                There's a trumpet concerto on youtube (Maurice Andre) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj6h3Y-LXXw





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                John W

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10963

                  #23
                  I was given this CD as a memento of my time as a postdoc at Aberdeen:



                  It does not seem to be currently available.
                  I don't think I gave it much attention at the time: perhaps worth another spin.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11707

                    #24
                    The Herschel symphonies recommended by ferny are terrific - ear worms all round . It is more than a little surprising that so few of his other works are recorded - shame Chandos didn't give us a second CD ar least .

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25210

                      #25


                      This review suggest that the journals of John Marsh might make an interesting read.

                      I was struck by the observation that he seems to have been unaware of the work of either JSB or Beethoven !!


                      2 volumes, £60 a pop each though !!

                      Anybody read them?
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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        This review suggest that the journals of John Marsh might make an interesting read.
                        Anybody read them?
                        I've read the first volume (the one, I believe, that deals with Marsh's Music activities): they are delightful! From his earliest memories (including eating the cherries out of a pie, but leaving the crust extant so that he wasn't discovered - he was about five at the time) to his work for concert clubs in Chichester. Anyone who's ever worked on the committee of an amateur arts club (or indeed anyone who's watched The Vicar of Dibley) will recognize many people they know in these two-hundred + year-old journals.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25210

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          I've read the first volume (the one, I believe, that deals with Marsh's Music activities): they are delightful! From his earliest memories (including eating the cherries out of a pie, but leaving the crust extant so that he wasn't discovered - he was about five at the time) to his work for concert clubs in Chichester. Anyone who's ever worked on the committee of an amateur arts club (or indeed anyone who's watched The Vicar of Dibley) will recognize many people they know in these two-hundred + year-old journals.
                          Thanks Ferney. Sounds good.

                          Wiltshire library have it , but on reference only.

                          However,better news is that big chunks are available online on google books.

                          The extensive journals of the English gentleman composer John Marsh, which cover the period from 1752-1828, represent one the most important musical and social documents of the period to have hitherto remained unpublished. Drawing on the recently discovered original (Now in the Huntington Library, San Marino, California), the selection covers the first fifty years of Marsh's life, a period of intense musical activity in the southern cathedral cities of Salisbury, Canterbury and Chichester. But Marsh was far more than a provincial composer and music director; the journals also cast much valuable light on musical life in London-his account of the great Handel Commemoration of 1784 is without parallel for its colorful evocation of the huge event. A lively interest in a wide range of topics gives the journals a scope rare in the writings of a musician and the volume will be of indispensable value not only to the musical but also thesocial historian. The unfailingly vital and often witty writing also ensures considerable appeal to the more general reader with an interest in an eventful period of English history. The volume has been comprehensively annotated and includes illustrations and contemporary maps in addition to the first complete published listing of Marsh's compositions and writings.



                          Just started, and it really is a cracking read.
                          Last edited by teamsaint; 01-04-15, 20:24.
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                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • MickyD
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4777

                            #28
                            I really wish a period instrument band would give us some symphonies by Wesley - I have always found them charming and under-rated.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26540

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              The Herschel symphonies recommended by ferny are terrific - ear worms all round . It is more than a little surprising that so few of his other works are recorded - shame Chandos didn't give us a second CD ar least .
                              Acquired today, was looking for precisely this sort of music for some road trips coming up - the Chandos London Mozart Players / Bamert disc is a delight!

                              Thanks Barbi and ferney!

                              And yes - Symphonies 2, 8, 12, 13, 14 & 17... What about 1, 3-7, 9-11, 14-16 and 18 to ??????

                              Astonishing the latter haven't been tackled, especially seeing the endless re-treads given to Vivaldi et al.

                              But anyway: fab discoveries!
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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