Something for a Friday: All of Bach

[Roehre]

Mass in G Minor BWV 235.

A sort of mini Mass..

Small but perfectly formed from bits of other cantatas

Interesting analysis here http://www.bach.org/bwv235.php

BTW, it's NOT a mini-Mass: any of the 4 Missae breves BWV 233-236 is with some 25-30 minutes length very comparable with similar masses from that time and later.

The size of Bach's Mass in b BWV232 is an exception confirming the rule: Many of the Mass-settings by Haydn, Mozart and Schubert e.g. are shorter or around the BWV233-236 length - only the later ones, essentially from the 1780s onwards, like Haydn's late Masses [Nelson or Pauken], Mozart's KV427 [even in its incomplete form!] or KV139, or Beethoven's opp.86 and 123 and Schubert's A-flat and E-flat Masses, are longer.

[Barbirollians]

This week's Bach for me was Kathleen Ferrier and the LPO/Boult .

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

BTW, it's NOT a mini-Mass: any of the 4 Missae breves BWV 233-236 is with some 25-30 minutes length very comparable with similar masses from that time and later.

Well, it can described as a "mini-Mass" (Missa Brevis) in that there are only settings of the Kyrie and Gloria "movements" - no Credo, Sanctus, Osanna/Benedictus, Agnus Dei or Dona Nobis Pacem settings. In Lutheran churches, such excerpts from the old Catholic complete Mass were frequently used. The B minor complete setting was compiled/completed specifically for the Catholic Cathedral in Dresden, the Kyrie and Gloria written much earlier as a(nother) Missa Brevis for the Protestant services in Leipzig.

[Roehre]

Well, it can described as a "mini-Mass" (Missa Brevis) in that there are only settings of the Kyrie and Gloria "movements" - no Credo, Sanctus, Osanna/Benedictus, Agnus Dei or Dona Nobis Pacem settings. In Lutheran churches, such excerpts from the old Catholic complete Mass were frequently used. The B minor complete setting was compiled/completed specifically for the Catholic Cathedral in Dresden, the Kyrie and Gloria written much earlier as a(nother) Missa Brevis for the Protestant services in Leipzig.

That's how the Mass in b started as well.
Harnoncourt recorded it as such as Missa 1733 (then still on Telefunken)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

That's how the Mass in b started as well.

- that's what my clumsy final sentence meant to say!

[EdgeleyRob]

Thanks Roehre and Ferney for your replies.

[BBMmk2]

What do people think of Abbado's recording of The Brandenburg's? At times I find them too rushed, in places and others I am totally amazed?

[EdgeleyRob]

Back to organ music

Chorale Prelude, BWV 683: Vater unser im Himmelreich

http://www.qub.ac.uk/~tomita/essay/cu3.html

[EdgeleyRob]

Well I know it's BWV 688 - Jesus Christus unser Heiland because I had the e mail,but the website doesn't seem to be working.
So I'm listening to Marie-Claire Alain instead because I need a Friday Bach fix.

[EdgeleyRob]

Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56.

Sort of life's #### then you die music.
The most beautiful of Chorales at the end.
Antidote to some of the tetchiness creeping into parts of the forum.

[gurnemanz]

Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56.

Sort of life's #### then you die music.

Sort of reminds me of what I have just been listening too. I'm a Sara Mingardo fan of inordinate proportions and have booked to go to her Wigmore Lunchtime show on Monday week and been playing some of her recordings to whet my appetite. Excruciatingly beautiful piece "Hor Ch'è Tempo Di Dormire" by Tarquinio Merula in which Mary lulls her beautiful innocent baby to sleep, reflecting on the tears, pain and death which lie ahead.

[Padraig]

BWV 56 - Been there done that.
Sara Mingardo - merely a big fan.

[EdgeleyRob]

My current favourite Bach organ piece.

Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C major, BWV 564.

Must take some playing this,looks very tricky that pedal part.

[Padraig]

My current favourite Bach organ piece.

Your reward, ER, for your faithful devotion to AoB, and to the organ works.

That was a stirring performance, and I do believe the organist enjoyed every moment too.

I listened in desperation when the election produced the worst news imaginable. I can sympathise with all your bad moments, and for me the good moments were scarce.

[Roehre]

My current favourite Bach organ piece.

Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C major, BWV 564.

Must take some playing this,looks very tricky that pedal part.

It's one of my most favourite organ pieces of Bach's