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  • verismissimo
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    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    #61
    Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
    This thread is rapidly turning into Pedant's Corner.
    It's possible that 'rapidly' rather understates the position, Sir V.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18015

      #62
      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
      Indeed, and the city we call Gothenburg is actually pronounced something like Yotaburg by the natives.
      Close, though I suspect more like "Yottybory." That of course may be how most Swedes would pronounce it - I can't say exactly what the inhabs of Gothenburg would say. We have some great examples - Cholmondely,Wymondham etc., where even some Brits don't know how the inhabs pronounce their town's name..

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      • ahinton
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        • Nov 2010
        • 16122

        #63
        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        Since we are unable to ask either Mussorgsky or Rimsky Korsakov or others who might have had an interest in such works at the time of their composition how they would have translated the Russian or French into English - they might not have known English - it is probably impossible to tell what was intended. The following could all arguably be considered reasonable translations from the Russian or French:

        1. Pictures at an exhibition
        2. Pictures of an exhibition
        3. Exhibition pictures
        4. Pictures from an exhibition
        I quite like the one usually cited by a composer/pianist of my acquaintance, namely Exhibitionists at the Pictures...

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18015

          #64
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          I quite like the one usually cited by a composer/pianist of my acquaintance, namely Exhibitionists at the Pictures...
          or could have Exhibitionists in the pictures
          - possibly not appropriate, but could be humorous!

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          • Keraulophone
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1945

            #65
            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            ...a double piano - not two pianos, but a rather large instrument with two keyboards and presumably two sets of strings. There was a duo who performed this and other pieces on the instrument which they moved about with them - I can't instantly recall who they were - but the instrument was ***** heavy!
            David Nettle and Richard Markham http://www.nettleandmarkham.com/Double%20Piano.htm

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              #66
              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              .....Cholmondely,Wymondham etc., where even some Brits don't know how the inhabs pronounce their town's name..
              In Kent there is a village whose name is spelt "Trottiscliffe" but is pronounced "Trotsley" if I'm not mistaken....

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37678

                #67
                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                In Kent there is a village whose name is spelt "Trottiscliffe" but is pronounced "Trotsley" if I'm not mistaken....
                And Balham, here in S London, is pronounced Bal Ham, if Peter Sellers was to be believed.

                (And what about Wurchester? )

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26533

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Close, though I suspect more like "Yottybory." That of course may be how most Swedes would pronounce it - I can't say exactly what the inhabs of Gothenburg would say. We have some great examples - Cholmondely,Wymondham etc., where even some Brits don't know how the inhabs pronounce their town's name..
                  Andrew McGregor perpetrated a "South-well" the other week, whereas any fule kno that the location of the relevant Minster is pronounced Suth'll. (Like Norwell up the A1 - pron. Norr'll)
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • mercia
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8920

                    #69
                    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                    In Kent there is a village whose name is spelt "Trottiscliffe" but is pronounced "Trotsley" if I'm not mistaken....
                    no second T I think, just Trosley. How about Woolfardisworthy?
                    Last edited by mercia; 08-05-14, 18:22.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37678

                      #70
                      Bristol was once called Bristowe, it is said, until the name-givers gave in to the local populace's well-known habit of putting an L on the ends of words ending -a or -o, eg tango > tangle.

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post


                        Btw: Stravinsky was arrested for his Star Spangled Banner arrangement, for damaging state property or something like that
                        Now that's proper serious music criticism
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26533

                          #72
                          Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                          Now that's proper serious music criticism


                          Oh nyet, it isn't !!!!
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #73
                            I think someone here has previously uploaded this photo in relation to that incident
                            Some sites say Stravinsky was arrested for re-arranging the composition of the Star Spangled Banner... However, read this below: "So. ...


                            but wikipedia says he wasn't arrested [but the orchestral parts were confiscated] and the incident happened on 15/1/1944

                            make of that what you will

                            oops crossposted

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26533

                              #74
                              No problems mercs... The photo is sufficiently extraordinary to be worth posting whenever possibly relevant!
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • LeMartinPecheur
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4717

                                #75
                                Oh nyet, it isn't !!!!
                                Seems that some board-members would still like to do much the same to Ravel for 'Damaging state Pictures at an Exhibition'!
                                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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