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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    More Bad news for music education

    A bit No Sh*t Sherlock IMV

    From the ISM




    A clear explanation



    and the sub plot ?



    The potential removal of music education funding from the Education Services Grant (ESG) is, perhaps, the final stage in this process. If it proceeds, music education will have completed its move out of the control of the DfE and into the control of the DCMS/Arts Council England (both organisations with an unsure future). From there, it is too easily sidelined as being part of cultural enrichment or arts provision and not seen as core to the educational entitlement that every child ought to have access to as part of their compulsory schooling.
  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7816

    #2
    . Vote jellyfish...
    Last edited by pastoralguy; 19-04-14, 08:38.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20575

      #3
      The further marginalisation of curriculum music is somehow justified by teachers of other subjects. Yet English Literature is compulsory is many schools up to the age of 16.

      If the GSCE English Literature exam were to follow the example of music GCSE, the set works would include Superman, Asterix and the Beano.

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        The further marginalisation of curriculum music is somehow justified by teachers of other subjects. Yet English Literature is compulsory is many schools up to the age of 16.

        If the GSCE English Literature exam were to follow the example of music GCSE, the set works would include Superman, Asterix and the Beano.
        I think you mix things up a little
        One could study literature with reference to the Beano
        and one can study music as a "Thinking Subject" including X Factor AS WELL AS Bach etc
        the problem IMV is that the idea that music IS a "Thinking Subject" rather than solely about entertainment is on the way out!

        I'd rather study Asterix than Dickens any day ! (Though BOTH are insightful in their social comment and observations !)

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20575

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          One could study literature with reference to the Beano
          How recently have you read The Beano lately? In desperation to keep going, it has adopted the Radio 3 method. Dennis the Menace's dad has had a makeover and now has a hair-style like Dennis's and is as badly behaved. The Bash Street Kids is still quite good, but the rest is feeble. It's all most disappointing. Bring back Little Plum.

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            #6
            a BBC music education initiative starting in October - not much detail as yet

            The BBC unveils 10 pieces of music that it hopes will inspire children in primary schools to learn more about classical music.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              a BBC music education initiative starting in October - not much detail as yet

              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27858859
              It will be interesting to see whether this is actually a NEW initiative of a repackaging of the (often excellent) work that the BBC ensembles already do in this area.

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              • mercia
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #8
                oh well, this is the initiative or even the strategy

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30512

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  oh well, this is the initiative or even the strategy

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediapacks/bbcmusic
                  I wonder what 'get creative with classical music' means? Is 'making music' the only legitimate way into classical music? Perhaps it is for primary children?
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30512

                    #10
                    Interesting?

                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20575

                      #11
                      It's what I've said throughout my teaching career.

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        This is also worth a look at

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                        • aeolium
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Not sure if this is the right thread but I wonder if those within the profession have any information or comment on this:

                          The government is to blame for a slump in the number of primary pupils in England taking after-school arts classes, Labour says.


                          e.g. what seems to be happening within their experience.

                          And are things changing as a result of the funds mentioned in an earlier report here?:

                          Music education for children in England is to receive an £18m boost in funding, the Department for Education says.
                          Last edited by aeolium; 04-08-14, 15:12. Reason: Contrast with earlier report/clarification

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20575

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                            Not sure if this is the right thread but I wonder if those within the profession have any information or comment on this:

                            The government is to blame for a slump in the number of primary pupils in England taking after-school arts classes, Labour says.


                            e.g. what seems to be happening within their experience.


                            And are things changing as a result of the funds mentioned in an earlier report here?:

                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-28420197
                            The Department for Education said: "We are determined to help every child develop their creativity.

                            "That is why we have invested £340m to support music and cultural education that will help children to enjoy the arts.

                            "In the last month alone we have cut red tape that restricted after-school drama performances and announced an £18m funding boost for music education.

                            "The extra funding will mean thousands more disadvantaged pupils will have access to instruments."


                            The "extra" 18m funding is what is sometimes referred to as a terminological inexactitude (aka a lie) as it is actually restoring what Gove and chums had cut, but did a u-turn under immense pressure. So the final sentence is a TA/lie also.

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              The Department for Education said: "We are determined to help every child develop their creativity.

                              "That is why we have invested £340m to support music and cultural education that will help children to enjoy the arts.

                              "In the last month alone we have cut red tape that restricted after-school drama performances and announced an £18m funding boost for music education.

                              "The extra funding will mean thousands more disadvantaged pupils will have access to instruments."


                              The "extra" 18m funding is what is sometimes referred to as a terminological inexactitude (aka a lie) as it is actually restoring what Gove and chums had cut, but did a u-turn under immense pressure. So the final sentence is a TA/lie also.
                              No way ! You mean they lied ?

                              And what exactly does "access to instruments" mean ?
                              Take turns to touch the Ukelele ?

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