A London Symphony - 100th anniversary

[Pabmusic]

I wouldn't like to hear Elgar's Enigma Variations performed regularly with the original ending...

Anyone who saw the ballet (it was shown on TV once, I recall) might recall tht the original ending was used for that. Mark Elder recorded it, too.

[visualnickmos]

I wouldn't like to hear Elgar's Enigma Variations performed regularly with the original ending

I was blissfully (ignorantly) unaware that there were two endings. Which one is common performance/recording practice?

[Pabmusic]

I was blissfully (ignorantly) unaware that there were two endings. Which one is common performance/recording practice?

The second. The first was used for the first performance (in St James's Hall under Richter), the second at New Brighton under Granville Bantock. The third performance (at Worcester, under the compose) used the ending we all know.

[seabright]

I'm really surprised that no-one has mentioned the fact that Leonard Slatkin demonstrated both 'Enigma' endings at the Proms in 1995 and that they've been readily viewable on You Tube for nearly three years now! Indeed, I sometimes wonder when I read some of the comments here, if music lovers of a certain age really don't have any idea of the immense amount of classical music treasures and rarities to be found on You Tube, and literally nowhere else, of which this is just one small example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL3Z3SrggQ

[Roehre]

I'm really surprised that no-one has mentioned the fact that Leonard Slatkin demonstrated both 'Enigma' endings at the Proms in 1995 and that they've been readily viewable on You Tube for nearly three years now! Indeed, I sometimes wonder when I read some of the comments here, if music lovers of a certain age really don't have any idea of the immense amount of classical music treasures and rarities to be found on You Tube, and literally nowhere else, of which this is just one small example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL3Z3SrggQ

Aware, likely, able to get it uninterrupted and therefore enjoyable, much less so.
Broadband speeds are not guaranteed in this country, not even in London, surprisingly.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I'm really surprised that no-one has mentioned the fact that Leonard Slatkin demonstrated both 'Enigma' endings at the Proms in 1995 and that they've been readily viewable on You Tube for nearly three years now! Indeed, I sometimes wonder when I read some of the comments here, if music lovers of a certain age really don't have any idea of the immense amount of classical music treasures and rarities to be found on You Tube, and literally nowhere else, of which this is just one small example ...

Why the "surprise"? The very fact that there is such an "immense amount of classical Music treasures and rarities to be found on youTube" means that things get overlooked. Are you "really surprised" that as soon as Alpie mentioned the original ending to the Enigmas everyone didn't search for "Enigma Variations, original ending" on the youTube search engine? Do you really "wonder" (in spite of all the links to youTube links that abound across all the Threads on the Forum) that "music lovers of a certain age" (those old enough to have full-time jobs, and so with limited time to be so easily "really surprised", I presume you mean?) are unaware of this "treasure"?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Mark Elder's recording of the Enigma Variations, which included both endings:

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Hall%25C3%25A9/CDHLL7501

It was Jaeger ("Nimrod") who persuaded Elgar to extend the final variation.

[Barbirollians]

A breath of fresh air and my favoured version,

(Looking forward to the Symphony No.1 - 'The Sea Symphony' - at the Bridgewater Hall with The Halle on Saturday evening.}

The concert had rave reviews . What did you think ?

[bluestateprommer]

Not sure if this YT video has been mentioned before elsewhere, but if not, it's a March 2017 performance from Osaka of the original version (!) of RVW 2, reported as the first performance of the original in Japan (with flubs, but quite forgivable in the grand scheme of things):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWEF9PXcskM

I'm not up-to-date on the current situation with the sanctioning of live performances of the 1913 original version, clearly.

[seabright]

Another non-English performance of the RVW "London" comes from Moscow, with the National Philharmonic Orchestra of Russia conducted by George Cleve. He turns out to have been an Austrian-born conductor who died in 2015 and, according to his Wiki bio, he was extremely rude, difficult, demanding and tyrannical. He could get good results but evidently many of his musicians had to play for him with their teeth clenched. He doesn't seem to have been much of a recording artist either. Anyway, his RVW2 from 2008 is a very creditable reading, IMO, and presumably many in the Moscow audience were hearing it for the first time ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHIsN09qvfI

[LMcD]

I'm really surprised that no-one has mentioned the fact that Leonard Slatkin demonstrated both 'Enigma' endings at the Proms in 1995 and that they've been readily viewable on You Tube for nearly three years now! Indeed, I sometimes wonder when I read some of the comments here, if music lovers of a certain age really don't have any idea of the immense amount of classical music treasures and rarities to be found on You Tube, and literally nowhere else, of which this is just one small example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL3Z3SrggQ

I'm probably what you would call 'of a certain age', and can assure you that I regularly find all sorts of musical treasure on You Tube, not to mention films and radio and TV series. My download speed is not great, but perfectly adequate for my purposes.
Arguably my greatest 'find' to date has been Jacqueline de Pre playing Dvorak's cello concerto at Daniel Barenboim's 'Concert for Czechoslovakia' at the RAH, which my wife attended before I met her, and can now watch again a performance she never imagined she would see again.
The thread dedicated to You Tube discoveries has led me to many a happy discovery - and a recent posting about a George Onslow quintet will certainly be followed up!

[BBMmk2]

I'm probably what you would call 'of a certain age', and can assure you that I regularly find all sorts of musical treasure on You Tube, not to mention films and radio and TV series. My download speed is not great, but perfectly adequate for my purposes.
Arguably my greatest 'find' to date has been Jacqueline de Pre playing Dvorak's cello concerto at Daniel Barenboim's 'Concert for Czechoslovakia' at the RAH, which my wife attended before I met her, and can now watch again a performance she never imagined she would see again.
The thread dedicated to You Tube discoveries has led me to many a happy discovery - and a recent posting about a George Onslow quintet will certainly be followed up!

Many thanks for this! Will have a look!

[Serial_Apologist]

I may be wrong here, but I think RVW composed his London Symphony in 1914?

[Bryn]

I may be wrong here, but I think RVW composed his London Symphony in 1914?

Composed between 1912 ad 1913. The premiere of the first version in 1914, first revised version 1918/20, further, definitive, revision in 1933.

[Serial_Apologist]

Composer between 1912 ad 1913. The premiere of the first version in 1914, first revised version 1918/20, further, definitive, revision in 1933.

Thanks for that information, Bryn. I had been wondering about what connections the thread title had with the OP.