Roger Wright moves to Aldeburgh Music

[french frank]

here's another candidate:

http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2014/03/a-stalking-horse-for-the-bbc.html#comments

whose excellent qualities include being a ( lapsed) horn player!

Lebrecht said they would want someone aged between 30 and 40/45(?)

Interesting that RW pushed the fact that he was the first CR3 with a degree in music, which means RL would have been if he'd got the job. But R3 is currently a poisoned chalice - can't think who would want it if they knew what was involved ...

[MrGongGong]

Lebrecht said they would want someone aged between 30 and 40/45(?)
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If that's the case then its Trunk all the way

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Lebrecht said they would want someone aged between 30 and 40/45(?)

The BBC has been criticised for ageism recently. Maybe that has passed Lebrecht by.

[teamsaint]

If that's the case then its Trunk all the way

would he come with a lot of baggage?


(Norm is the one keen on analysing CD sales i.....)

[cloughie]

"What we need is a great big melting pot, to fit the world and all its got" ~ Blue Mink.

"Learn how to remove all those ugly sharp edges on your genres" ~ Woodworking Weekly.

"The simple things are all complicated" - The Who

"Confusion will be my epitaph" - King Crimson

[cloughie]

6 music is a specialist rock/contemporary music channel.

It is called 6 music.

But its content seems to be chat and classic/easy listening rock. Its daytime programming is for people not yet old enough to listen to R2.

More "specialist " programmes means programmes aimed at people who are actually interested in music, not music to hear in the background while they work.

Why do specialist pr0grammes have to be on at midnight, or outsied peak hours? What research is there that indicates that this the way to build audience, or serve the stations remit?

Apologists for low quality thresholds do none of us any favours.

Reminds me of British Railways policy back in the 60s when they changed the times of trains so that they didn't connect and wehen no one used them said there was no demand for them and then closed the line. 'Listen to the Band' used to be on at a reasonable time!

[french frank]

Why do specialist pr0grammes have to be on at midnight, or outsied peak hours? What research is there that indicates that this the way to build audience, or serve the stations remit?

Oh, there is definite research - your mistake is in thinking that the aim is to build audiences

The aim is to put on the most popular/populist programmes at the most popular times of day to maximise the audience. The programmes which, though of higher quality, attract lower audiences are tolerated as long as they are kept to the parts of the schedule when few people want to listen anyway. This is what the commercial services do. As a policy it's called 'Ratings by day, reputation by night.'

Incidentally, that's why Breakfast and Essential Classics have become so populist - because in theory they'll attract the biggest audiences because they occupy the most popular slots.

[Honoured Guest]

So a) the post is not a fulltime one - he still keeps (atm) R2, 6M and the Asian Network

b) Hall will be in on it too. But I'm not quite sure why Shennan would have been chosen.

This managerial restructuring replaces two roles with one Director - the new Director of Music replaces the old Controller for Popular Music and the old de facto Controller of Classical Music.

Neither of the two old Controllers should be due any payment for their displacement or loss of responsibilities in this management restructuring because:

Bob Shennan (old Controller for Popular Music) has been promoted to the new role of Director of Music, and

Roger Wright (old de facto Controller of Classical Music) resigned (one day!) before the restructuring was announced.

I presume that this restructuring makes it managerially much simpler to be much more flexible in Music programming across all music genres and platforms.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

can we start a poll or sweepstake on successors?

i fancy Gillian Moore to win meself .... a woman who has built audience size, awareness and reputation ... she may have the grit needed to pull it off and is from the London arts milieu as is Milord Hall ....

[teamsaint]

Oh, there is definite research - your mistake is in thinking that the aim is to build audiences

The aim is to put on the most popular/populist programmes at the most popular times of day to maximise the audience. The programmes which, though of higher quality, attract lower audiences are tolerated as long as they are kept to the parts of the schedule when few people want to listen anyway. This is what the commercial services do. As a policy it's called 'Ratings by day, reputation by night.'

Incidentally, that's why Breakfast and Essential Classics have become so populist - because in theory they'll attract the biggest audiences because they occupy the most popular slots.

Although of course the actual figures are kept secret by the publicly funded broadcaster.

[Honoured Guest]

can we start a poll or sweepstake on successors?

I see that Paul Flowers is back in the job market and is up for anything with no relevant experience.

As he's a devout Methodist, Choral Evensong may be first in line for the axe.

[french frank]

Although of course the actual figures are kept secret by the publicly funded broadcaster.

Look out for some documents when they're produced for the Charter review. They certainly produced a chart for Audiences through the Day which traces how the audience rises and falls as the day progresses. The pattern is similar for each station though there are moderate variations which characterise individual stations.

Radio 3's morning audience peaks 30-40 minutes later than average, and holds up better throughout the morning than Radio 4's which plummets at the end of the Today programme. Most stations hit a trough at about 3.30pm before rising at teatime drivetime. Then Radio 3's is higher in the early evening because of the concert: most stations drop as audiences move over to television never to return until the following morning ...

[Honoured Guest]

Then Radio 3's is higher in the early evening because of the concert: most stations drop as audiences move over to television never to return until the following morning ...

But remember that a station's evening listeners aren't all part of its daytime audience. Some people listen regularly to specific specialist (or insert your own preferred term) programmes on stations they hardly ever listen to in the daytime for general (or insert your own preferred term) programming.

[french frank]

But remember that a station's evening listeners aren't all part of its daytime audience. Some people listen regularly to specific specialist (or insert your own preferred term) programmes on stations they hardly ever listen to in the daytime for general (or insert your own preferred term) programming.

My comments merely refer to the size of the audience throughout the day, illustrating that most of the "specialist" programmes (reputation) have smaller audiences because they're in the evenings while the bland CD sequences have higher audiences (ratings) at particular times of day.

Quite whether a slot for jazz at 5pm every day would build an audience for jazz on Radio 3, I don't know. Slightly, I suppose.

Somewhat off topic, I see we've had 147 visits to the forum from the BBC since March 1st, with a peak yesterday, biggest in 2014. I wonder what they found so interesting?

[Flosshilde]

But remember that a station's evening listeners aren't all part of its daytime audience. Some people listen regularly to specific specialist (or insert your own preferred term) programmes on stations they hardly ever listen to in the daytime for general (or insert your own preferred term) programming.

You do seem hung up on this specialist/generalist idea (I'm still waiting for you to provide examples btw). I would have thought that the reason daytime audiences and evening audiences aren't identical is because in the daytime people tend to be at work & have less opportunity to listen. In the evening they can join those people who can listen during the day (unless the latter are on nightshift & have to go out to work just as the more substantial programming starts ).