Originally posted by Alain Maréchal
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I, too, find this totally baffling. The VPO/Bernstein Mahler 5 issued in 1988 was indeed an original digital CD. There are LP issues of brand new recordings now coming out so it's even more baffling. I've never played a single LP since the day I bought my first CD player nor do I ever intend doing."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink -
An extreme position to take, I would respectfully suggest. There are many superb recordings which have never appeared on CD or download, although their numbers are slowly reducing. There are also many which have been so badly remastered that listening is no pleasure.Originally posted by Petrushka View PostComment
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My pictorial reference to Monsieur Blériot's aeroplane was intended to convey something of the same reaction on my part too...!Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
I suppose I can also see that harnessing the best of recording technology with what some hold to be the best of sound reproduction technology does make an LP of a digital recording logical."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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I briefly wondered whether there might be some frequency and/or dynamic range improvements available via the vinyl issue. However, this dispels many vinyl/CD myths.
Of particular relevance is:
Vinyl is often sourced from digital anyway
The original way of cutting a record master was to use a tape deck equipped with a preview head to allow the cutting engineer to monitor the amplitude of the incoming signal and make appropriate adjustments to the groove spacing.
In the mid-1970s, the digital delay line (DDL) was invented and some vinyl mastering houses began to use this technology instead of the preview head on the signal going to the lathe that cuts the spiral groove. However many mastering houses continued to use and maintain their tape decks equipped with the preview head, and did not use DDL's.
The vinyl mastering process may well have involved a conversion to digital and back.[1] however individuals will need to do further research on particular vinyl mastering houses at certain era's in order to determine the specifics of any particular vinyl release. This information may be difficult to obtain.Comment
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It's this classic I like, rather than Barry White...Originally posted by MickyD View Post
Groovy, huh? I'm sure Maurice would have found his hips swinging..Comment
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That's quite a leap from Ravel, Jayne!
(I was actually using HM the Queen's hilarious quote from a couple of days ago)Comment
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I see that there is a new 20 disc Decca box of Monteux recordings, due to be released 27 May. It is quite pricey compared with some of the bumber box bargains (currently £102 on Amazon) but tempting if it doesn't cause too many duplications.
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It's nice to know that it's being issued, but for me the only item that i haven't got is the set of Beethoven Symphonies. It would be good to know if the material has been re-mastered, that might tempt me.Comment
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The Beethoven set is available on its own, both from DECCA:Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
... and from Australian Eloquence:
The sound on the latter is quite marvellous - I presume the other is the same? (Performances pretty fine, too.)[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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Your link to the Eloquence box is to an overpriced option. Try:Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostThe Beethoven set is available on its own, both from DECCA:
... and from Australian Eloquence:
The sound on the latter is quite marvellous - I presume the other is the same? (Performances pretty fine, too.)
for much lower pricing.Comment
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostYour link to the Eloquence box is to an overpriced option. Try:
for much lower pricing.
- That's more like it!
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100 percent duplication for me - that saves me some cash! I think Monteux must be a favourite of mine!Originally posted by johnb View PostComment
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I'll have to stay with my Decca (Double Decca) sets of Monteux's Beethovens 1-8, finances being the usual - ie lacking, but they sound OK-ish for their age; will have to do...Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostThe Beethoven set is available on its own, both from DECCA:
... and from Australian Eloquence:
The sound on the latter is quite marvellous - I presume the other is the same? (Performances pretty fine, too.)
Just out of interest... are there sometimes instances whereby recordings can be over-remastered, and sound somehow 'unreal?' - almost as if they are the sound equivalents of images that are overly computer-enhanced?Comment
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A new 41 disc set of the great Handel Oratorios, culled from the Philips, Decca and DG catalogues. I have most of them already, but this could be a bargain for some:
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There was a report last month that suggested that about 48% of the people who now buy vinyl use the records as a fashion statement, and never actually play them. Indeed, about 10% of the people buying records don't own a record player. For these people, the record is displayed to show how cool the owner is, but when they listen to music, they usually listen to downloads or streaming sites.Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
If you're not going to actually play the record, it probably doesn't matter that much whether it was originally digital or analogue.
Having said that, I suspect the above is more applicable to the collectors of pop records, and it unlikely that many people are buying classical records as fashion statements.
The first digital recording I remember on LP was Images and L'apres midi d'une faune conducted by Previn. I think this was the first official classical digital release."I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
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