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  • Roehre

    Originally posted by martin_opera View Post
    Thought I was familiar with most Four Last Songs recordings but this is a new one to me. I have Previn with Arleen Auger and it's one of my personal favourites, but Rothernberger?? My inability to find the time or will to sign up for Gramophone on-line means I can't find any reviews on line. Would be grateful for views if anyone has heard it?
    I got the LP version of Rothenberger's Letzte Lieder (ASD 3082, with only the Strauss items, no Wolf) as far back as 1976. Beautifully sung, very nicely recorded.
    A friend of mine used the record to demonstrate (on Radio 3, iirc in 1981) a panel of critics that Rothenberger was much more than a operetta-singer singing duets with Rudolf Schock - by not announcing the singer and only revealing her name after the four panel members were flabbergasted by this -in their ears- brilliant recording without immediately recognizing the voice....

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    • martin_opera

      Originally posted by Roehre View Post
      I got the LP version of Rothenberger's Letzte Lieder (ASD 3082, with only the Strauss items, no Wolf) as far back as 1976. Beautifully sung, very nicely recorded.
      A friend of mine used the record to demonstrate (on Radio 3, iirc in 1981) a panel of critics that Rothenberger was much more than a operetta-singer singing duets with Rudolf Schock - by not announcing the singer and only revealing her name after the four panel members were flabbergasted by this -in their ears- brilliant recording without immediately recognizing the voice....
      Nice anecdote. Thank you. I have been very pleased with the recording and Rothenberger now sits alongside my favourite VLL along with Norman, Auger, Isokowski and Lott. And Della Casa of course!
      Last edited by Guest; 27-01-13, 17:45.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11686

        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        First post of 2013 on this thread!

        And what a cracker - late 'live' Boult in fourth symphonic thoughts of Brahms and Mendelssohn, both in stereo





        Hurrah - I wish they would release this apparently amazing last Proms performance of Elgar 2 he conducted though- perhaps in a specially priced double with the equally legendary Ida Haendel/Haitink Elgar Violin Concerto

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        • pastoralguy
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7759

          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          I'd have to add this, which I've been raving about on another thread - Mozart Piano Concertos nos. 21 and 22 by Christian Ihle Hadland with the Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra under Arvid Engegård



          NB in that link, they list the cadenzas incorrectly: it's in No 22 that the 1966 Britten cadenzas are played... in No 21, the pianist plays his own.
          I really liked what I heard on CD Review yesterday so have ordered this from Amazon. (Well, who is there left to order it from?!)

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7759

            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Hurrah - I wish they would release this apparently amazing last Proms performance of Elgar 2 he conducted though- perhaps in a specially priced double with the equally legendary Ida Haendel/Haitink Elgar Violin Concerto
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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12250

              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Hurrah - I wish they would release this apparently amazing last Proms performance of Elgar 2 he conducted though- perhaps in a specially priced double with the equally legendary Ida Haendel/Haitink Elgar Violin Concerto
              Wholeheartedly agreed!

              I had that 1977 Elgar 2 on cassette but it's long disappeared.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11686

                Originally posted by martin_opera View Post
                Nice anecdote. Thank you. I have been very pleased with the recording and Rothenberger now sits alongside my favourite VLL along with Norman, Auger, Isokowski and Lott. And Della Casa of course!
                What ! No Jurinac/Busch from 1950 ! on EMI References - indispensable.

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                • martin_opera

                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  What ! No Jurinac/Busch from 1950 ! on EMI References - indispensable.
                  Jurinac is great (apart from the applause after each song which always infuriates me and I wish they could have edited it out before CD release). But she's second tier in my book along with Popp, Te Kanawa, Schwarzkopf, Studer, Sass and Janowitz. Third tier (worth an occasional listen) is Fleming, Tomowa Sintow, L Price, Caballe, Stemme, Harteros, Mattila and Harper. Those I have not returned to include Schwanewilms and Merbeth. Does anyone know if Julia Varady ever recorded these - some dodgy You Tube live performances with Kurt Masur are the only things I have found so far.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11686

                    Second tier ! Splutters in disbelief.

                    I cannot agree . Norman sounds like a ship in full sail - beautiful voice but she could be singing a shopping list nothing very valedictory about her performance . Isokowski is very good but just a little lacking in character . Auger's recording I do not know. Della Casa is the other one in the premier league with Jurinac IMO and Popp comes a close third.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26536

                      Originally posted by martin_opera View Post
                      Nice anecdote. Thank you. I have been very pleased with the recording and Rothenberger now sits alongside my favourite VLL along with Norman, Auger, Isokowski and Lott. And Della Casa of course!

                      A propos that list, and for what it's worth, here's a link to a previous contribution I made, about a private BAL with a musical mate, from which Lott emerged on top... http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...326#post153326

                      Jurinac and Rothenberger weren't in the running however...
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • gurnemanz
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7387

                        I heard a track from a newly issued album featuring Parsifal for jazz trio (and why not?) on Bayern 4 Klassik. Gurnemanz is there, of course. Samples here. Interesting. Final track is Beethoven's An die Freude.

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                        • Mahler's3rd

                          I'd like to get the Solo Piano Version of Mussorgsky's "Pictures At An Exhibition". I notice theres a new version just come out of Alice Sara Ott doing this piece, does anyone have that recording and if so whats it like? Does anybody have any recommendation's of the piece I could check out otherwise. I've seen the Ravel & Henry Wood Arrangements of the work and saw Emerson Lake & Palmer do it years ago. Would like to get the solo piano version, but dont know which one to get hold of, Thanks Everyone

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                          • Thropplenoggin

                            Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
                            I'd like to get the Solo Piano Version of Mussorgsky's "Pictures At An Exhibition". I notice theres a new version just come out of Alice Sara Ott doing this piece, does anyone have that recording and if so whats it like? Does anybody have any recommendation's of the piece I could check out otherwise. I've seen the Ravel & Henry Wood Arrangements of the work and saw Emerson Lake & Palmer do it years ago. Would like to get the solo piano version, but dont know which one to get hold of, Thanks Everyone
                            I don't know the work so can't recommend anything. This is just to flag a new release by Steven Osborne on Hyperion of the piece you seek. More info here: http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Hyperion/CDA67896

                            If you don't have a response, you might like to start a new thread about it which will be more visible to other forum members.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22120

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              Second tier ! Splutters in disbelief.

                              I cannot agree . Norman sounds like a ship in full sail - beautiful voice but she could be singing a shopping list nothing very valedictory about her performance . Isokowski is very good but just a little lacking in character . Auger's recording I do not know. Della Casa is the other one in the premier league with Jurinac IMO and Popp comes a close third.
                              Obviously 4LS versions are a very personal taste - my favourites are Lott, Auger and Schwanewilms with the Bonney Martineau piano version close and Te Kanawa Solti in there too. J Norman I agree is too full on.

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11686

                                Christine Brewer is good with Runnicles too .

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