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  • Mandryka
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    • Feb 2021
    • 1561

    Originally posted by ostuni View Post
    I've listened to the whole of this recent Lachrimae recording, and wasn’t as worried as was johnb by the slight reticence of the treble viol; I sometimes feel that, when the director of the consort is on the top line (Dreyfus with Phantasm, Savall with Hesperion) that the balance can be too treble-dominated.
    I’ve certainly noticed this in concert with Phantasm. I’ve always thought it was partly a tendency for the ear to be drawn to the higher registers. I’ve never heard Savall in concert. Les Voix Humaines do indeed ornament very imaginatively. Another imaginative one is Christiano Contadin with the Opera Primera Consort on Brilliant.

    There are so many recorded performances of these things now, I can’t keep up! I certainly can’t do them all justice. I should probably stick with the ones I’ve found the most satisfying for a long period - The John Dowland Consort on BIS and The Rose Consort.
    Last edited by Mandryka; 26-04-23, 08:40.

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    • MickyD
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      • Nov 2010
      • 4819

      Is that the 1994 recording on BIS with Jakob Lindberg?
      That's the only version I have in my collection and it's good to see that despite all the newer versions, it's still held in high regard.

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      • Mandryka
        Full Member
        • Feb 2021
        • 1561

        Originally posted by MickyD View Post
        Is that the 1994 recording on BIS with Jakob Lindberg?
        That's the only version I have in my collection and it's good to see that despite all the newer versions, it's still held in high regard.
        Yes that's the one, but I wouldn't conclude from the fact that I like it that it's generally held in high regard!

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        • Mandryka
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          • Feb 2021
          • 1561





          Sounds wonderful.

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          • RichardB
            Banned
            • Nov 2021
            • 2170

            Originally posted by johnb View Post
            where oh where is the top line of the viol consort.
            Where it ought to be, is what I would say, equal to the other voices rather than sticking out anachronistically.

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            • johnb
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              • Mar 2007
              • 2903

              I now wish I hadn't commented on the Dowland recording - but having done so ...

              These things are a matter of preference but I feel that in the Dowland the top line of the viol consort should be clearly heard (but not over prominent). I hesitate to call it the melody line, even is that is what it is - after all Dowland used Lachrimae Antiquae for his lute song Flow My Tears. My problem is that even though I know the music I find it very difficult, and sometimes impossible, to discern the top viol line in the Musical Humors recording.

              By the way, I tend to agree that the Phantasm recording does rather over do things.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 11062

                Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
                Cappella Pratensis, Obrecht, Missa Maria Zart

                https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/mi.../fo13ah33ks2kc
                There's an article about this in the May edition of Gramophone, just arrived.

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4819

                  This looks like an exciting release next week - Christophe Rousset and his band in orchestral suites drawn from operas by Pancrace Royer. I heard a few excerpts on France Musique this morning - one for the shopping list!

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                  • RichardB
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2021
                    • 2170

                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    This looks like an exciting release next week - Christophe Rousset and his band in orchestral suites drawn from operas by Pancrace Royer. I heard a few excerpts on France Musique this morning - one for the shopping list!
                    I listened to a couple of preview tracks on Qobuz this morning- highly promising.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      The new recording of Mozart's Requiem, as completed by Eybler and Sussmayr, from Savall looks interesting, as do the programme notes:

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                      • Mandryka
                        Full Member
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 1561

                        Mark R Taylor, Violin and Piano music



                        Moments of shattered fragments punctuated by deep ruby chords of aching beauty, this short collection of timeless reflective works by British experimental composer Mark R Taylor is released by his close advocates violinist Darragh Morgan and pianist Mary Dullea.
                        Shrouded within the nexus of experimental past from Satie to Feldman and Radalescu to Cardew there is an endless quality to these short works of almost postlude feel.


                        Actually, I don't think it's hyperbole in the longer pieces here! Big thanks to Richard for making me aware of Mark R Taylor.
                        Last edited by Mandryka; 05-05-23, 18:57.

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                        • Master Jacques
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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1927

                          Listening to this morning's "new Identity releases", it was easy to believe that Allyson Devenish might be a disguised character from E. F. Benson. For comical pretention ("dance rustique - that means 'rustic dance'.") and worried judgementalism ("concerned" by Britten, as a white occidental male, presuming to set some Songs from the Chinese) this morning's display was very entertaining, worthy of Lucia's best, if also a cause of despair. Is it no longer considered possible by the RR producers to evaluate art music seriously for its own sake, rather than for its box-ticking qualities? Or is it simply time to give this distinguished contributor to RR a well-deserved holiday, perhaps??

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                          • mathias broucek
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1303

                            The Petrenko / Berlin DSCH 8-10 is on eclassical for only £10 or so in 24 bit. Have purchased but not yet listened

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                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6468

                              Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                              Listening to this morning's "new Identity releases", it was easy to believe that Allyson Devenish might be a disguised character from E. F. Benson. For comical pretention ("dance rustique - that means 'rustic dance'.") and worried judgementalism ("concerned" by Britten, as a white occidental male, presuming to set some Songs from the Chinese) this morning's display was very entertaining, worthy of Lucia's best, if also a cause of despair. Is it no longer considered possible by the RR producers to evaluate art music seriously for its own sake, rather than for its box-ticking qualities? Or is it simply time to give this distinguished contributor to RR a well-deserved holiday, perhaps??
                              I was thinking how horrified Mark Lowther must have been!

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26573

                                Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                                Listening to this morning's "new Identity releases", it was easy to believe that Allyson Devenish might be a disguised character from E. F. Benson. For comical pretention ("dance rustique - that means 'rustic dance'.") and worried judgementalism ("concerned" by Britten, as a white occidental male, presuming to set some Songs from the Chinese) this morning's display was very entertaining, worthy of Lucia's best, if also a cause of despair. Is it no longer considered possible by the RR producers to evaluate art music seriously for its own sake, rather than for its box-ticking qualities? Or is it simply time to give this distinguished contributor to RR a well-deserved holiday, perhaps??
                                I’m glad it wasn’t just me… although ‘entertaining’ isn’t an adjective I’d have used… ‘unendurable’ is closer to the mark for me - the fast-forward button was deployed repeatedly. The ‘distinguished contributor’ had previously distinguished herself on to my ‘avoid’ list, but I let my guard down
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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