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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Anyone bought or heard Schiff’s new HIPP Brahms concertos ?
    Yes, as fairly extensively discussed on this very forum. There is a rather strange review in the latest edition of the BBC Music Magazine. Having largely evaluated highly both performance and recording quality in the text, the star rating at the end reflects a rather different assessment. The review is by Bayan Northcott. I attended performances by the same forces at the RFH around a year before the recording was made, and reported on it here a the time. I found them pretty revelatory and looked forward to the reported recordings being made. Schiff's introductory talks on the nights, and his contributions to the CD booklets, were/are also very illuminating.

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      Anyone bought or heard Schiff’s new HIPP Brahms concertos ?

      In medias res, nothing but impassioned enthusiasm so far, hope to say more soon but poor health and low energies mean all serious listening (like everything else) is taking a long time ...I might open up a dedicated thread on it later....

      One thing I can say for sure is the recorded sound is marvellous - so tangible, perfectly balanced and highly-resolved it would be easy to mistake it for an SACD. A joy to listen to, the performers right there before you...
      First musical impressions are of readings combining mature wisdom with freshness and flair. Far, far more to them than some mere instrumental or orchestral revisionism.
      The sheer structural originality of No.1's first movement really tells, so the shock of the piano's entry in the recap is truly shocking; one of many examples where the clarity and character of the period instruments and the Blüthner prove their aptitude.
      (Just stumbled upon this excellent description...https://www.morissenegor.com/wp-cont...o-Concerto.pdf

      Great and Wonderful Brahms, on any stage, by any measure.
      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 10-06-21, 11:58.

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      • CallMePaul
        Full Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 791

        Just arrived from Hyperion this morning are Heinrich Isaac's Missa Wohlaut gut Gsell(and other works) from Cinquecento and Music for the King of Scots from the Binchois Consort. I've not had the time to listen to them yet but am looking forward to doing so!

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        • Mandryka
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          • Feb 2021
          • 1535

          Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
          Just arrived from Hyperion this morning are Heinrich Isaac's Missa Wohlaut gut Gsell(and other works) from Cinquecento and Music for the King of Scots from the Binchois Consort. I've not had the time to listen to them yet but am looking forward to doing so!
          Please post your thoughts about these two interesting releases.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25209

            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post

            In medias res, nothing but impassioned enthusiasm so far, hope to say more soon but poor health and low energies mean all serious listening (like everything else) is taking a long time ...I might open up a dedicated thread on it later....

            One thing I can say for sure is the recorded sound is marvellous - so tangible, perfectly balanced and highly-resolved it would be easy to mistake it for an SACD. A joy to listen to, the performers right there before you...
            First musical impressions are of readings combining mature wisdom with freshness and flair. Far, far more to them than some mere instrumental or orchestral revisionism.
            The sheer structural originality of No.1's first movement really tells, so the shock of the piano's entry in the recap is truly shocking; one of many examples where the clarity and character of the period instruments and the Blüthner prove their aptitude.
            (Just stumbled upon this excellent description...https://www.morissenegor.com/wp-cont...o-Concerto.pdf

            Great and Wonderful Brahms, on any stage, by any measure.
            Blimey, if that start doesn't get you hooked nothing will. Looking forward to a proper listen tonight, now that I have got Airplay back up and running.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              The Schiff/OAE Brahms Piano Concertos are Recording of the Month in the new Gramophone (7/21).....reviewer, Michelle Assay.....

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                The Schiff/OAE Brahms Piano Concertos are Recording of the Month in the new Gramophone (7/21).....reviewer, Michelle Assay.....
                Deservedly so. in my view. I still can't get my head around Bayan Northcott's dismissal with faint praise, via the star system, in the BBCMM. Until now, my benchmark has been the Gilels/CSO/Reiner I got to know in my youth. Of the tradition it hails from, it remains rather special to me but these Schiff/OAE performances and recordings have now taken the high ground, in my opinion.

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  Has anyone here tried the new Mahler 8 from DG (Dudamel), which they have made available in Dolby Atmos (among other formats)?

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25209

                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Has anyone here tried the new Mahler 8 from DG (Dudamel), which they have made available in Dolby Atmos (among other formats)?

                    Hmmm.. I have an iphone 8 with the latest IOS version a reasonably recent ipad , and Apple Music should all be up to date.
                    There should be a “Dolby Atmos” switch in music settings...... but I’m not seeing it.......

                    Edit...apparently I need IOS 14.6, but I’m on 14.4, with no update prompt yet .....
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Hmmm.. I have an iphone 8 with the latest IOS version a reasonably recent ipad , and Apple Music should all be up to date.
                      There should be a “Dolby Atmos” switch in music settings...... but I’m not seeing it.......

                      Edit...apparently I need IOS 14.6, but I’m on 14.4, with no update prompt yet .....
                      I'll be making do with 96/24 2-channel stereo via QOBUZ (importing now).

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                      • CallMePaul
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 791

                        Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                        Just arrived from Hyperion this morning are Heinrich Isaac's Missa Wohlaut gut Gsell(and other works) from Cinquecento and Music for the King of Scots from the Binchois Consort. I've not had the time to listen to them yet but am looking forward to doing so!
                        I have now listened to the Binchois Consort disc. The music is very interesting and I enjoyed listening to it. The acoustic took some getting used to (my knowledge of acoustic science is almost zero so I cannot comment on the technical aspects) as it is very different from the churches generally used for this type of recording, but it is clear and not difficult to follow the singing. Of course the Binchois Consort - I have several of their earlier discs - is one of the finest ensembles in this type of repertoire.

                        In Scotland, the Reformation changed far more than it did in England and few traces of religious art and music from that period remain (there are only three fragments of pre-reformation stained glass extant, somewhat incongruously displayed in a window of a minor denominational church in Edinburgh's Cowgate, for example) that we must cherish whatever escaped the Calvinist purges. I hope for more recordings of music from this period. Whoever owns the rights to Collins Classics should consider reissuing their Carver series (I lost mine to a burglar back in the late 1990s!).

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                        • pastoralguy
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7759

                          Has anyone heard the new recording of Brahms Third Symphony from Ivan Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra yet? A symphony that really sorts out the men from the boys!

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                          • HighlandDougie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3091

                            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                            Has anyone heard the new recording of Brahms Third Symphony from Ivan Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra yet? A symphony that really sorts out the men from the boys!
                            Yes - I streamed it from Qobuz the other day (hi-res - so good sound). First impressions were favourable but I need to listen to it again - maybe this afternoon. You are quite right about it "sorting the men from the boys". Unlike its predecessor in the Brahms symphonic canon, rather more difficult to get right. I'd listened to the Argerich/Barenboim Debussy "Fantaisie" just before it so the lovely playing of the Budapest FO was like balm after the decidedly sub-fusc offering from the Berlin Staatskapelle.

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                            • pastoralguy
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7759

                              I remember seeing a drama programme on, iirc, ITV(!) about the life of Sir Thomas Beecham who was played by Timothy West. As part of the project saw him conducting, The Halle, led by Michael Davis, was dutifully employed. Obviously, Timothy West was extremely good at characterising Sir Thomas but his conducting technique was basic so I was very surprised to hear him and the orchestra attempt the beginning of Brahms 3. Inevitably, it was a bit of a shambles with Michael Davis doing some scroll waggling in an attempt to keep it all together. I wondered who choose that particular work knowing it’s one of the most difficult starts in symphonic music.

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                              • pastoralguy
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7759

                                Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                                Yes - I streamed it from Qobuz the other day (hi-res - so good sound). First impressions were favourable but I need to listen to it again - maybe this afternoon. You are quite right about it "sorting the men from the boys". Unlike its predecessor in the Brahms symphonic canon, rather more difficult to get right. I'd listened to the Argerich/Barenboim Debussy "Fantaisie" just before it so the lovely playing of the Budapest FO was like balm after the decidedly sub-fusc offering from the Berlin Staatskapelle.
                                Please let me know your opinion, HD. I’m very tempted by this.

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