New releases

[MickyD]

... ah - thanks for flagging that up. I think vol 6 brings this particular series to a close :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SZGSZ9H/

Duly ordered!


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Do you have all the rest, Vints? I have so much Telemann on my shelves already (including the bargain box 30 CD Sony set with so much treasure within) that I really wonder if I can justify any more! And because of his prolific output, I find it hard to discern what I have already in my collection.

[vinteuil]

Do you have all the rest, Vints? I have so much Telemann on my shelves already (including the bargain box 30 CD Sony set with so much treasure within) that I really wonder if I can justify any more! And because of his prolific output, I find it hard to discern what I have already in my collection.

... I know the feeling, Micky!

I think I have all the cpo discs :gulp emoticon:

But you must make space for the lovely CD which Richd: Barrett commended here recently :

Telemann: stuff (overture, concertos) on an Alpha CD performed by Les Ambassadeurs. Absolutely exquisite especially the horn playing (by the Madeuf brothers) - I think forum member Tony would enjoy it a lot.

https://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/143139/Telemann_-_Overture_and_Concertos_for_Darmstadt.htm

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[Master Jacques]

Although I have seen it written that the main part of the movement was intended to evoke the then new industrial age, so it could conceivably have something to do with steam trains!

You take the words out of my mouth: for me, it is the most terrifying picture of the machine in music (DSCH eat your heart out!) and intended as such. The evocation of steam trains seems not only apt, but necessary to expand the context of this music. If we accept psychological and spiritual illuminations of Bruckner's music, we must accept the physical world as well, both natural and man-made. And that pulverising mechanisation explains why the contrasted trio works so wonderfully well.

[jayne lee wilson]

Although I have seen it written that the main part of the movement was intended to evoke the then new industrial age, so it could conceivably have something to do with steam trains!

I was referring to the hoary old idea that "all Bruckner scherzos sound the same" which used to be applied in a clever-clever tone to the symphonies generally.

The problem with the steam-train analogy for the Bruckner 9th scherzo is that steam trains are now too familiar, olde-worlde culturally, not demonic or frightening at all... (and the rhythms are wrong in any case) .... which surely Bruckner's music is here, the demons/angels contrast vividly there in the trio. Yes, there is a metal-machine-music threat about it, but a more apt analogy would be found among sci-fi films like Metropolis or any number of the more recent Marvel or Star Wars series.........

Anyway this DCO Bremen Mozart Prom is sounding pretty demonic and heavenly itself... I'm off to pay it proper attention...

[Richard Barrett]

I was referring to the hoary old idea that "all Bruckner scherzos sound the same"

Yes but we've got beyond that I think. On the other hand I think it's more appropriate in the present case to put oneself in the mind of someone born in 1824 and encountering steam trains, heavy industry etc. than to evoke 21st century superhero movies! (to which I give a wide berth anyway, so it wouldn't occur to me in the first place...) (not being snobbish, I just don't go for that kind of thing)

[jayne lee wilson]

Yes but we've got beyond that I think. On the other hand I think it's more appropriate in the present case to put oneself in the mind of someone born in 1824 and encountering steam trains, heavy industry etc. than to evoke 21st century superhero movies! (to which I give a wide berth anyway, so it wouldn't occur to me in the first place...) (not being snobbish, I just don't go for that kind of thing)

Point taken obviously, but the 9th scherzo seems very fantastical music to me, as in many ways does the whole symphony, inhabiting a startlingly remote, almost alien musical universe compared to the ones that came before... (though you perhaps get a glimpse of it in the 8th's 1st movement development and climax...)

[Richard Barrett]

I think I have all the cpo discs :gulp emoticon:

I know I do! They're not all equally good in terms of performance, especially the "Grand Concertos" series in my opinion, and I'm not entirely sure about the need to include two of the Tafelmusik concertos on vol.6 although actually they're so well played I don't mind. Only two of the pieces on the disc were previously unknown to me, but the Sinfonia Melodica is of special interest, having been written in 1766 and thus being one of Telemann's last works (Haydn had written thirty-odd symphonies by then!)

[Richard Barrett]

the 9th scherzo seems very fantastical music to me, as in many ways does the whole symphony, inhabiting a startlingly remote, almost alien musical universe compared to the ones that came before... (though you perhaps get a glimpse of it in the 8th's 1st movement development and climax...)

Undoubtedly.

[kea]

Point taken obviously, but the 9th scherzo seems very fantastical music to me, as in many ways does the whole symphony, inhabiting a startlingly remote, almost alien musical universe compared to the ones that came before... (though you perhaps get a glimpse of it in the 8th's 1st movement development and climax...)

On my first exposure I thought it sounded like the score to Star Wars, and specifically the Imperial March. Although I'm guessing Bruckner was not directly influenced by John Williams.

[MickyD]

... I know the feeling, Micky!

I think I have all the cpo discs :gulp emoticon:

But you must make space for the lovely CD which Richd: Barrett commended here recently :

https://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/143139/Telemann_-_Overture_and_Concertos_for_Darmstadt.htm

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Thank you - my goodness, it is also something of an impossible task to keep up with all the good things coming from the Alpha label.
I was rather hoping that the Darmstadt works would be the same as those that I already have on the excellent Harnoncourt set, but no, these are different pieces, so must be had!

[MrGongGong]

This (posted on another thread as well)

Is new and worth a listen

https://electrocd.com/en/album/5984/Nikos_Stavropoulos/Micro-lieux

[Richard Barrett]

This (posted on another thread as well)

Is new and worth a listen

Very Birmingham isn't it?

[Bryn]

Coming soon on the "All That Dust" label:



Scheduled for mid-October release. CDs or downloads.

[Bryn]

The forthcoming 80 CD Complete Beethoven from Warner for under £100 looks to be an attractive option for those who do not already have most of the recordings which comprise it. Incomplete listing here.

[Alison]

The forthcoming 80 CD Complete Beethoven from Warner for under £100 looks to be an attractive option for those who do not already have most of the recordings which comprise it. Incomplete listing here.

Good steer Nethersage, artist wise this set would fill more gaps in my collection than the DG.

Georges Solchany unfamiliar to me & seem to recall the Artemis quartets well reviewed. Good price too. Who will buy both?!