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  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    No, as I wrote, "the scherzo of No. 6", i.e. 'track' 23. 3. Scherzo (Nicht schnell) . . . However, though it was reported as corrupt each time I tried it yesterday, it now appears to have been repaired or replaced. I doubt I was the first to note the problem. There are details of orchestration in this performance that are brought out particularly well, I feel. I am rather fond of the Sixth. It's the only one I have the score for. Great that one does not have to struggle too much over which edition to buy in the case the Sixth.
    This is the album I referred to....
    Listen to unlimited or download Bruckner: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 9 by Claudio Abbado in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.


    Lucerne/Abbado 1 & 9......so if there's also a new Bruckner 6th I haven't seen yet, I'd like to know about it!

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8645

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Sadly, more like an unbegun performance of 4'33". Let's face it though, you've heard one Bruckner scherzo, you've heard 'em all, innit?





      That's true, but I quite like the one in the 9th because it reminds me of a steam locomotive labouring its way up the Lickey Incline - or possibly the Long Drag.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12937

        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
        ... there's the sixth volume of Telemann's "Grand Concertos" on cpo...
        ... ah - thanks for flagging that up. I think vol 6 brings this particular series to a close :



        Duly ordered!


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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          if there's also a new Bruckner 6th I haven't seen yet, I'd like to know about it!
          Yes, me too. Especially if it's conducted by Abbado.

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
            Yes, me too. Especially if it's conducted by Abbado.
            For me it be Abbado every time. It’s just that it was Haitink that inspired me in appreciating to what this work is about.
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • Richard Barrett
              Guest
              • Jan 2016
              • 6259

              Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
              For me it be Abbado every time.
              So are you aware of a recording of no.6 conducted by Abbado? Because this is getting silly now.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                So are you aware of a recording of no.6 conducted by Abbado? Because this is getting silly now.
                I think your right, Abbado didn’t.
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • kea
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 749

                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Very interesting New Release page on Qobuz this week...(Autumn! Oh God...clouds...sunlight....)...

                  Bruckner 1 (1890) & 9 from Lucerne/Abbado (rec.2012/13), a new Saariaho Graal Theatre from BIS, a Murail Anthology on KAIROS, and Harding's SRSO Brahms Requiem....
                  All lined up, if I don't fancy the breakbeats....
                  I'm not sold on the Murail (although I will probably listen to it) or the new Hosokawa disc, but from the new and upcoming Kairos releases I am somewhat interested in the Alwynne Pritchard and the upcoming 3CD Clemens Gadenstätter album.

                  Kairos releases over the last few years have definitely been a mixed bag for me, hard to think of any firm favourites except the Donatoni Ensemble Adapter one.

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                  • kea
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 749

                    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                    This is the album I referred to....
                    Listen to unlimited or download Bruckner: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 9 by Claudio Abbado in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.
                    This seems to be the one Bryn is referring to
                    Écoutez en illimité ou téléchargez Bruckner : The Nine Symphonies de Wiener Philharmonic Orchestra en qualité Hi-Res sur Qobuz. Abonnement à partir de 12,49€/mois.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by kea View Post
                      This seems to be the one Bryn is referring to
                      https://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/br.../duq8n8ny54uub
                      Indeed, a case of crossed thread. I was referring to the set mentioned in #2091.

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                      • Richard Barrett
                        Guest
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 6259

                        Originally posted by kea View Post
                        Kairos releases over the last few years have definitely been a mixed bag for me, hard to think of any firm favourites except the Donatoni Ensemble Adapter one.
                        There are some essential releases in their catalogue, as I'm sure you'd agree, but about some of them I wonder whether the choice of repertoire isn't down to what can and can't be backed by some kind of financial support, since I doubt that the label makes much of a profit out of sales; it's the same kind of thing that skews the programming of festivals like HCMF where there's almost always an emphasis on Scandinavian music and performers which seems unwarranted until you realise that the cash-strapped festival doesn't have to pay anything to have them there.

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                          [/B]


                          That's true, but I quite like the one in the 9th because it reminds me of a steam locomotive labouring its way up the Lickey Incline - or possibly the Long Drag.
                          It isn't true, not at all! I protest as a lifelong devoted Brucknerian!
                          You could easily advance the same view of Schumann scherzi (compare e.g. 1 & 4), Mendelssohn (compare...many!) and even Beethoven scherzi if you hadn't got to know them well...

                          And I think Bryn might just have had his tongue-in-cheek, just possibly.....
                          As to the VPO New Release, the Horst Stein tapings are well worth hearing, Abbado 1st excellent, the Bohm 3/4 wellworn, much reissued classics, but the rest, well...hmmm...
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 08-09-19, 07:39.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22183

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            [/B]


                            That's true, but I quite like the one in the 9th because it reminds me of a steam locomotive labouring its way up the Lickey Incline - or possibly the Long Drag.
                            Sounds like it needed Big Bertha to push it along a little swifter.

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Sounds like it needed Big Bertha to push it along a little swifter.
                              You haven't heard Andreae or Venzago then? Or etc etc.....and where does the featherlight, otherworldly trio fit into this bizarre comparison?
                              Poor Bruckner, still encountering Hanslicks in 2019...

                              I think I better get back to the cricket or the garden and try to calm down....
                              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 07-09-19, 13:14.

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                              • Richard Barrett
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                                It isn't true, not at all!
                                Although I have seen it written that the main part of the movement was intended to evoke the then new industrial age, so it could conceivably have something to do with steam trains!

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