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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    I have Steven Osborne’s new Rachmaninov cd. It’s certainly a jaw dropping, mouth watering experience of top notch piano playing. I don’t think that SO has made a dud recording!
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • silvestrione
      Full Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1700

      Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
      I have Steven Osborne’s new Rachmaninov cd. It’s certainly a jaw dropping, mouth watering experience of top notch piano playing. I don’t think that SO has made a dud recording!
      No, I think you are right (or should that be 'yes'!). I love his way with the finale of the 'Hammerklavier', rhythmically vital.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
        No, I think you are right (or should that be 'yes'!). I love his way with the finale of the 'Hammerklavier', rhythmically vital.
        I haven't bought that one yet.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • silvestrione
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1700

          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          from the Bernstein thread....

          Last night/early this morning (I'm never quite sure of the difference these days) I discovered (on Qobuz HiFi) the new release of the Symphony No.2 with Zimerman/Berlin Phil/Rattle... oh, it's poor value as a CD/download purchase yes, but the performance! Utterly wonderful, the subtlest and most beautiful I've heard yet, even alongside the more "operatic" Rana/Pappano.

          I'd just heard the 1950 Foss/Bernstein and was about to return to bed, but scanning Qobuz Discover blear-eyed, I stumbled upon this new one, and the cat-on-me rule persuaded me to go one further. Thanks, Mizzy!
          Anyone who loves Bernstein or the Symphonies in particular, needs to hear this any which way!
          I had better report my very different experience, in case anyone is weighing up whether to go for this one or not, and needs to be confused a little. I listened to Rattle/Zimerman in the Bernstein Sym 2 today, a work I am unfamiliar with, and do not want to hear again. Empty rhetoric, bombast, banality....until a spirited appearance by Art Tatum just before the end, tickling the ivories like mad, at least gives a moment's (4' 30'') pleasure!

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
            I had better report my very different experience, in case anyone is weighing up whether to go for this one or not, and needs to be confused a little. I listened to Rattle/Zimerman in the Bernstein Sym 2 today, a work I am unfamiliar with, and do not want to hear again. Empty rhetoric, bombast, banality....until a spirited appearance by Art Tatum just before the end, tickling the ivories like mad, at least gives a moment's (4' 30'') pleasure!
            I'm sorry to hear that, Silver....I did say elsewhere that despite the immediate accessibility or expressiveness of the idiom, it took me a few hearings to really click with No.2, Jeremiah or the Serenade, works which I'd been too impatient with a few years ago...it was almost as if I'd assumed that, because of the music's directness, I didn't need to give it any more time, or "work".... I'm so, so glad I did now.

            So it goes...!
            Did that lovely, delicate first piano entry not touch your heart at all..? Really? Maybe listen again once or twice....?

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              I would urge silvistrione to come back to this work at some point in the future. Like so many things in Bernstein, beauty, character and meaning go together and are never far below the surface.

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12234

                I've lost count of the number of times I failed to 'get' a work on it's first, or even tenth, hearing only for it click into place on the eleventh! I'm sure most of us can say similar, which is why I can well understand those early reviews of well loved masterpieces that now make hilarious reading.
                Last edited by Petrushka; 30-08-18, 21:01.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • silvestrione
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1700

                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Did that lovely, delicate first piano entry not touch your heart at all..? Really? Maybe listen again once or twice....?
                  It didn't, I'm afraid, but I will try it again tomorrow!

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                  • jayne lee wilson
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 10711

                    Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                    It didn't, I'm afraid, but I will try it again tomorrow!
                    Let's hope it's a grower ​for you too....

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      I've lost count of the number of times I failed to 'get' a work on it's first, or even tenth, hearing only for it click into place on the eleventh! I'm sure most of us can say similar, which is why I can well understand those early reviews of well loved masterpieces that now make hilarious reading.


                      (I'd strongly recommend you give the Schmidt Second Symphony another ten goes, Pet! )
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12234

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                        (I'd strongly recommend you give the Schmidt Second Symphony another ten goes, Pet! )
                        I was in the hall for the VPO/Bychkov Prom a year or two ago, coming to it cold, and found it beyond belief dreary but, yes, in my case that would be a good candidate for another go! At the moment, it's in the 'life's too short' category.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          I was in the hall for the VPO/Bychkov Prom a year or two ago, coming to it cold, and found it beyond belief dreary but, yes, in my case that would be a good candidate for another go! At the moment, it's in the 'life's too short' section.
                          I remember you saying this earlier in this season - I love it, but it did take a few hearings. Even better is the Fourth, which features in the first of the BPO Proms on Saturday: absolutely unmissable, and strongly recommended. And, no doubt, due for a forthcoming recording he said, grinding the gears to get back to Thread Topic!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22115

                            A couple of interesting Australian Eloquence releases next month Robert Irving’s Decca recordings from the 50s on 2CDs and another 2CD set of Mahler with Yvonne Minton CSO and Solti - Das Lied von der Erde, Fahren Gesellen and Knaben Wunderhorn. There’s also on the same label an early Haitink recording with the Concertgebouw of Beethoben 8 and Mendelssohn 4 & Hebrides Ov. I hope this is the opening shot of Haitink’s 60s recordings, many of which have never been transferred to CD!

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              This appears to be the height of craziness. The Austrian label "God" has released a recording of Morton Feldman's String Quartet 2 played by the Pellegrini Quartet. That's the good news. The bad is that it is on 6 vinyl LPs only, and costs around £100 plus p&p. I have emiled them to enquire whether they intend to stick to this obsolete media or also issue the recording on CD, audio DVD or as high resolution download. 11 side changes for a continuous performance just seems so stupid, let alone the audio defects of vinyl.

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                This appears to be the height of craziness. The Austrian label "God" has released a recording of Morton Feldman's String Quartet 2 played by the Pellegrini Quartet. That's the good news. The bad is that it is on 6 vinyl LPs only, and costs around $128 plus p&p. I have emiled them to enquire whether they intend to stick to this obsolete media or also issue the recording on CD, audio DVD or as high resolution download. 11 side changes for a continuous performance just seems so stupid, let alone the audio defects of vinyl.
                                Crazy - this is political correctness gone mad

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