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[Bryn]

Wasn't Arcana completed in 1927? He'd lived in the US since 1915, and all but one of the works of his that survive were written in America - so, yes; an American composer.

Varèse started work on Arcana in 1925. It was first performed in April 1927. He became an American citizen in October of that year, so completed some months rather than some years before the dreadful deed.

[Beef Oven!]

Varèse started work on Arcana in 1925. It was first performed in April 1927. He became an American citizen in October of that year, so completed some months rather than some years before the dreadful deed.

Varèse was incontestably, irrefutably, irreconcilably, irredeemably, indisputably and impossibly French (of part Italian decent).

Martina Navratilavo was similarly Czechoslovakian.

[Bryn]

Varèse was incontestably, irrefutably, irreconcilably, irredeemably, indisputably and impossibly French (of part Italian decent).

Martina Navratilavo [who he?] was similarly Czechoslovakian.

Martina Navrátilová was born Czech but in now most definitely American.

[jayne lee wilson]

How was this? Is it in Stereo? I was unable to find it on Apple Music

The Suk Asrael from SWR/Ancerl is here on Qobuz.....

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/josef-suk-asrael-krejci-serenata-sinfonieorchester-des-sudwestrundfunks-karel-ancerl/rlyrjrhhpxi3b

and here on Amazon....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078FFX8HN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It was recorded in Stereo in the Hans-Rosbaud-Studio of the SWR Baden-Baden in May 1967.
Alas, after the death of someone very close, I couldn't face listening to the work (or any music of such ominously tragic, yearning character) so I never played the purchased CD ...

[Beef Oven!]

Martina Navrátilová was born Czech but in now most definitely American.

Born Czechoslovakian, you'll find.

[Bryn]

Born Czechoslovakian, you'll find.

Just as I was born English (and British, and of the U.K.) so Ms. Navrátilová was born both Czech and, in terms of the binational state of the time, Czechoslovakian. Today, while retaining her American citizenship, she is also a Czech citizen, having acquired that citizenship in 2008.

I wiil soon be downloading the newish Roth Ravel release.

[richardfinegold]

Varèse was incontestably, irrefutably, irreconcilably, irredeemably, indisputably and impossibly French (of part Italian decent).

Martina Navratilavo was similarly Czechoslovakian.

My point exactly. Transplanted Europeans shouldn’t be included in anthologies Of American Music simply because they composed a work on American shores. I’m surprised Sony didn’t include a Slatkin recording of Dvorak’s New World Symphony.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

My point exactly. Transplanted Europeans shouldn’t be included in anthologies Of American Music simply because they composed a work on American shores.

But it isn't as "simple" as that, is it?

[richardfinegold]

The Suk Asrael from SWR/Ancerl is here on Qobuz.....

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/josef-suk-asrael-krejci-serenata-sinfonieorchester-des-sudwestrundfunks-karel-ancerl/rlyrjrhhpxi3b

and here on Amazon....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078FFX8HN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It was recorded in Stereo in the Hans-Rosbaud-Studio of the SWR Baden-Baden in May 1967.
Alas, after the death of someone very close, I couldn't face listening to the work (or any music of such ominously tragic, yearning character) so I never played the purchased CD ...

Sorry for your loss, Jane.
Quobuz is still unavailable on these shores. Earlier reports were that it would debut this Summer.
I bought the Ancerl when you reassured that it is a Stereo studio recording. I am not averse to historical recordings, but after buying many recordings of concerts from radio broadcasts made well into the Stereo era that were in mono , and frequently bad mono (Salzburg, Lucerne, and yes, , many Beeb offerings), I’ve decided no more. The Toscanini Icon series, live recordings from the late 1930s, sounds better than many concert re ordings from 30 years later.
Asreal has been a difficult piece for me, one that I’ve tried to get my brain around, but somehow it seems to elude me. I am a huge admirer of Ancerl so here is hoping

[Beef Oven!]

Just as I was born English (and British, and of the U.K.) so Ms. Navrátilová was born both Czech and, in terms of the binational state of the time, Czechoslovakian. Today, while retaining her American citizenship, she is also a Czech citizen, having acquired that citizenship in 2008.

I wiil soon be downloading the newish Roth Ravel release.

She was born in Czechoslovakia. She grew up in Czechoslovakia. She represented Czechoslovakia at sport (esp. tennis) and held a Czecholsovakian passport. She became a US citizen before the Czech Republic was invented! She wasn't a Czech citizen, she couldn't have been. Now things are different. Anyone can be British or American etc. But Europeans can't become Chinese or Indian or Nigerian. Funny old world we live in today

[Beef Oven!]

My point exactly. Transplanted Europeans shouldn’t be included in anthologies Of American Music simply because they composed a work on American shores. I’m surprised Sony didn’t include a Slatkin recording of Dvorak’s New World Symphony.

[cloughie]

....and is Andre Previn German and Cliff Richard Indian?

[Bryn]

....and is Andre Previn German and Cliff Richard Indian?

Quite, and there was that renowned American conductor Sir Charles Mackerras. Getting back to Martina, she most definitely is a Czech and an American citizen. Having had her Czekoslovak citizenship revoked in 1975, she acquired Czech citizenship in 2008 while retaining her American citizenship. Oh, and strictly, it was Martina Šubertová who was born Czeckoslovakian, not Martina Navrátilová.

[kea]

My point exactly. Transplanted Europeans shouldn’t be included in anthologies Of American Music simply because they composed a work on American shores. I’m surprised Sony didn’t include a Slatkin recording of Dvorak’s New World Symphony.

Not much difference imo between a settler who arrived in America from France or Germany or England 15 years ago instead of 150. Unless by "American Music" you are referring only to music written by First Nations/Indigenous/Métis/Inuit/Alaska Native people, of course >_>

[Barbirollians]

My point exactly. Transplanted Europeans shouldn’t be included in anthologies Of American Music simply because they composed a work on American shores. I’m surprised Sony didn’t include a Slatkin recording of Dvorak’s New World Symphony.

Aren't a very significant proportion of the population of the USA transplanted Europeans ?

Or are you only treating transplanted Europeans as those born outside the US ?