John Cage: 4' 33"

[gurnemanz]

I think you've omitted to mention the version by Les Dawson on a 1730 Cristofori fortepiano.

I think you'll find this version was omitted as inadmissible since it only lasts 4'32"

[AuntDaisy]

9.30 a.m.
Elise MacGregor compares recordings of John Cage’s iconic work 4’ 33”, discussing instrumentation the wide variety of musical approaches to the composer’s best known work, before recommending her preferred version.

As a scientist, I can only abhor the lack of a negative sign in the Cage title.
Absolute Zero is MINUS 273.15 degrees Celcius - and what about the missing fractional part?

I will be writing a very critical e-mail to BaL and copying it to the National Physical Laboratory (where I used to work).

https://www.npl.co.uk/si-units/kelvin

[cloughie]

I think you'll find this version was omitted as inadmissible since it only lasts 4'32"

You mean he cheated to finish first?

[french frank]

I think you'll find this version was omitted as inadmissible since it only lasts 4'32"

The Moercabme version also ruled out on the grounds of the inaccuracies.

[Bryn]

As a scientist, I can only abhor the lack of a negative sign in the Cage title.
Absolute Zero is MINUS 273.15 degrees Celcius - and what about the missing fractional part?

I will be writing a very critical e-mail to BaL and copying it to the National Physical Laboratory (where I used to work).
https://www.npl.co.uk/si-units/kelvin

"As a scientist" you should investigate before offering such nonsense. Walter Branchi was quite wrong in his unsupported assumption that Cage was making reference to Absolute Zero. The timings were determined by chance operations and any close relationship of the total duration in seconds to the 0 Kelvin expressed in degrees Celsius is purely coincidental. Cage was an American and to him, Absolute Zero would have approximated to -459.67 Fahrenheit.

[RichardB]

I think you'll find this version was omitted as inadmissible since it only lasts 4'32"

It's those excessive HIPP tempi again.

It's a shame though that none of the available versions yet makes use of the reconstruction of the incomplete fourth movement by the intrepid William Carragan, making a rare foray into twentieth century music, which of course calls into question many long-held assumptions about this work, including its very title.

[kernelbogey]

There's fevered anticipation for Max Richter's Cage's 4' 33" Reimagined (eight CDs, no download).

[LHC]

I was going to recommend the recording by Gwyneth Jones which, although no longer on sale, can still be found second hand from the usual sites. However, I realised the excessive vibrato, and dodgy intonation at the climax of the piece might be too much for many members.

[hmvman]

The very best amplification and loudspeakers are essential for critical listening to this work.

[Lordgeous]

I believe dear Joyce Hatto planned to release a 7" single version "lifted" by hubby from the Horowitz 'Live in Moscow' recording, digitally manipulating the speed and editing out some 'fluffs', but fortunately intrusive audience noise ruled it out.

Has the splendid DON ever covered this cornerstone of the piano repertoire in BAL?

[Bryn]

[cloughie]

Drawn a blank there Bryn I assume that was intentional, or was it another of those that my ipad doesn’t like to pick up?

[Bryn]

Drawn a blank there Bryn I assume that was intentional, or was it another of those that my ipad doesn’t like to pick up?

Works fine here (i7 Windows system). Is anyone else having problems accessing it?

[AuntDaisy]

"As a scientist" you should investigate before offering such nonsense. Walter Branchi was quite wrong in his unsupported assumption that Cage was making reference to Absolute Zero. The timings were determined by chance operations and any close relationship of the total duration in seconds to the 0 Kelvin expressed in degrees Celsius is purely coincidental. Cage was an American and to him, Absolute Zero would have approximated to -459.67 Fahrenheit.

Points taken.

[cloughie]

Works fine here (i7 Windows system). Is anyone else having problems accessing it?

Far simpler for me if you just share, copy and paste from youtube.