Shostakovich 4,5 & 6 Oslo PO/Makela

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  • ucanseetheend
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    • Dec 2010
    • 292

    Shostakovich 4,5 & 6 Oslo PO/Makela

    Just completed listening to this trio of DSCH and really impressed with Makela's interpretation. Good tempo, excellent strings and brass, and Decca sound. Particularly liked his 6th. Not one of Shostakovich's regularly recorded works, loved the mood in the opening largo and the presto was fantastic. Look forward to more from conductor and orchestra.

    “A MIND-BLOWING PERFORMANCE – AS THRILLING FOR ITS EMOTIONAL CONTRADICTIONS AS FOR ITS PULVERIZING UNITY OF PURPOSE” ★★★★★ – The Scotsman Following their highly
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 15-08-24, 13:31.
    "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10669

    #2
    Streaming here right now, as the whole set has appeared on Deezer, not just tasters as there were last week (I mentioned this in New releases).
    I read somewhere recently* that he considers the sixth to be his favourite of the symphonies (haven't got there yet!).

    (Hope you won't mind a hostly layout edit in your post, ucan, to make the link a bit more obvious.)

    * It was on the Presto site last Friday (wording changed in what I misremembered, from 'the finest' to 'his favourite'):

    Following their multi-award-nominated set of the complete Sibelius symphonies and a widely acclaimed recent concerto recording with Janine Jansen, the Norwegian orchestra and their Chief Conductor turn to a composer whose music has been central to their relationship since before his official appointment. In a four-star review yesterday, The Guardian's Andrew Clements singled out the 'beautifully controlled and paced' account of the Sixth (Mäkelä's favourite Shostakovich symphony) as the highlight.

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 7530

      #3
      Listened to 5/6 last night. Both were impressive as was the playing. I only wanted a little more heft in the final brass chords but then I’m used to hearing the Chicago Symphony in this piece.
      I preferred 6 to the recent Petrenko/BPO. It was particularly encouraging to hear KM control the rhetoric of both works. There were no arbitrary speed up and slow downs. Every thing had a purpose , a sense of destination.
      Speaking of the CSO this recording has done a lot to lift my spirits about the future here with KM . For the first time I see what the fuss is about

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26439

        #4
        Originally posted by ucanseetheend View Post
        Just completed listening to this trio of DSCH and really impressed with Makela's interpretation. Good tempo, excellent strings and brass, and Decca sound. Particularly liked his 6th. Not one of Shostakovich's regularly recorded works, loved the mood in the opening largo and the presto was fantastic. Look forward to more from conductor and orchestra.
        Was just about to post about this release, glad I searched first - thank you for starting the thread.

        I haven’t listened yet; No 6 is one I’ve always loved, No 4 has remained a closed book for 5 decades (as posted in the recent Prom thread)…

        Can’t wait for time to give a proper listen. V interesting to read your & others’ comments meantime.
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • ostuni
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          • Nov 2010
          • 545

          #5
          I listened to all of 4 today. At first, I was a bit unsure that it wasn’t gritty enough (I listened to all of N Jarvi last week, and dipped into Kondrashin earlier this morning) - but on hearing the whole performance, was really won over by two main aspects: the overall pacing of the performance, and the really superb orchestral playing. Fabulous, beautiful sounding woodwinds, powerful string sound, thrilling brass.

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          • richardfinegold
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            • Sep 2012
            • 7530

            #6
            Originally posted by ostuni View Post
            I listened to all of 4 today. At first, I was a bit unsure that it wasn’t gritty enough (I listened to all of N Jarvi last week, and dipped into Kondrashin earlier this morning) - but on hearing the whole performance, was really won over by two main aspects: the overall pacing of the performance, and the really superb orchestral playing. Fabulous, beautiful sounding woodwinds, powerful string sound, thrilling brass.
            I’ve listened to 4 twice. The first listening I thought KM wasn’t as sure footed as in 5/6, and that feeling dissipated a bit with a rehearing but I do think that some of the music’s ambiguity eludes him

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            • akiralx
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              • Oct 2011
              • 423

              #7
              I listened to 5 last night on headphones, and was very impressed with the performance - very direct with excellent sound (perhaps the bass drum was not ideally focused in the closing bars). I will listen to 6 today. I'm not familiar with 4 to be honest.

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              • ostuni
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                • Nov 2010
                • 545

                #8
                And I listened to 6 yesterday: again, superbly played, with a thrillingly swift finale (a fair bit quicker than others noted in my score: Rodzh, Wigglesworth, Kondrashin, K Sanderling, Mrav, Barshai, Boult).

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                • HighlandDougie
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3038

                  #9
                  On the basis that it’s a 2-for-the-price-of-1 issue, I bought the CDs last week. I’ve supplemented listening to them with streaming the 24/96 6th via Qobuz. I think that they get better as one progresses from 4 to 6. The 1965 live Mravinsky/Leningrad PO Melodiya recording (Hall of the Moscow Conservatory) has long been my benchmark for the 6th, not least for the swift finale (followed by some enthusiastic Russian applause). As Ostuni points out, Makela is “thrillingly swift”, which, combined with excellent orchestral playing and great recording quality (the CDs sound just fine), as well as very good performances of the 4th and 5th, make this an issue well worth anyone’s time. I prefer my 4th with a bit more of a bite to it but that’s just a matter of personal taste. The 6th, though, is as good as it gets.

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                  • akiralx
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                    • Oct 2011
                    • 423

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                    On the basis that it’s a 2-for-the-price-of-1 issue, I bought the CDs last week. I’ve supplemented listening to them with streaming the 24/96 6th via Qobuz. I think that they get better as one progresses from 4 to 6. The 1965 live Mravinsky/Leningrad PO Melodiya recording (Hall of the Moscow Conservatory) has long been my benchmark for the 6th, not least for the swift finale (followed by some enthusiastic Russian applause). As Ostuni points out, Makela is “thrillingly swift”, which, combined with excellent orchestral playing and great recording quality (the CDs sound just fine), as well as very good performances of the 4th and 5th, make this an issue well worth anyone’s time. I prefer my 4th with a bit more of a bite to it but that’s just a matter of personal taste. The 6th, though, is as good as it gets.
                    I agree the Sixth is very well done, with spectacular playing and recording - the only minor quibble I had was when the horns steal in near the end of the first movement, which didn't seem quite as emotional as it does on other recordings, e.g. Berlin SO under Kurt Sanderling. Here their entry seems slightly too loud.

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                    • Pulcinella
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 10669

                      #11
                      The first recording of S6 I had was this one, bought in fact for the Stravinsky coupling.
                      I remember being very impressed back then, and it's still probably my favourite.
                      The first movement took up the whole of side 1.

                      Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra/ Rolf Kleinert.



                      I remain a little unconvinced by the first movement in this new recording, but overall it's a fine set.

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10669

                        #12
                        My second-hand score of S6 has just arrived (thought it was due Tuesday, through normal post!).
                        Good condition, as advertised; stamped WITHDRAWN FROM STOCK from University of West London/Thames Valley University Library.
                        Presumably Music got the chop there.

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                        • ucanseetheend
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 292

                          #13
                          The Gramophone website still not reviewed the Makela Oslo recordings.Really strange ,other sites have done so.
                          "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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                          • Pulcinella
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                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10669

                            #14
                            A pretty short review in October's BBC MM by David Nice gives 5 stars for both Performance and Recording.

                            I endured the Dave Hurwitz rant, and actually thought that he made a few pertinent comments along the way.
                            It's clear from the comments under the clip that he has put some people off purchasing the set, but some are kinder, suggesting that the engineering is as much to blame for some of the recessed/inaudible sounds, though David Nice would seem to disagree.

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                            • ucanseetheend
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 292

                              #15
                              Tell me (in your opinion)his pertinent points please
                              "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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